[8D]OpJose thank you that site is perfect. Okay for the beginner stupidity. I figured out what was wrong with my whole setup. (drum roll please) The pinion gear was slipping the glue gave out. So I re-glued with CA and activator. took nylon ties and strapped the motor in place. I never like the idea that the motor was just pressed in place. Tomorrow we fly and I will post as to how well. We still might have to change the motor, but lets at least give this configuration a shoot. Thank you all for helping. This is not an easy hobby by any standards. I have never done so many task to complete something. i just balanced the whole load and the battery can not be place where the plans say to, so shoved that up right behind the motor. Still had to add two more oz. Well wish me liuck, the journey may not be over yet. [8D]