Don, good point on that expo. I had forgot about the plus and minus thing between JR and Futaba. I set up my one students plane with his new DX7 and when I set the trims in the air for him that little hot rod was A hand full. Scared the heck out of the kid too. One of the guys at the field mentioned it to me and that little thing really made A difference!! The little things in life that keep us on our toes.