What? no HPI? I don't know about racing it but I'm gonna put the HPI RS4 3 SS up against the Associated NTC3 Team version in a week or two and I'll let everyone know what happened.There's parts everywhere for both and I think they are both about $270.I always wanted an RC-10 like 12 years ago and have always thought Associated was a great company, but I didn't want to have to buy an engine seperatly so I got the HPI.I would go with one of those two,both Shaft driven AWD.