Thanks for the answers everyone. I kinda figured it was complicated with lots of factors involved. One thing I did manage to accomplish today, I got it (the Sukhoi) to do elevators really nice by adding just a tiny bit of spoileron. It comes down now without the slightest hint of wing rock. Also, for some odd reason it seems to glide better with the ailerons up just a tad like that. Like for some weird reason that seems to have reduced drag. I know it sounds strange but it sure seems that way at least when I throttle back to land. I'm thinking about whipping out the incidence meter tonight and see if I can get a more clear picture. Thanks again for the answers.