sniggemann I don't know about these other mocelers but I have one and I've had it for about three years now and still flys just the way I want it to. Of course I don't have all the flying wires on it like I should but I do have the ones on the top of the wings and they are just fine for me. I have a super tiger 6l in it and she flys just fine. I just don't know whats the matter with some of these people that just can't fly a good plane unless it is an ARF. They just don't know how to build any more.