ORIGINAL: brett65
ORIGINAL: JohnW
What do you mean by 3D? Knife edge, snaps, rolls I don't consider 3D so I guess I'm confused there.
UCD3D will be slow, but probably 3D capable to most.
The Extra will have better straight line speed, but will take much more skill to 3D.
I guess I don't really know the correct definition of 3D flying. I see extras doing really neat stuff and I want to do that too. Maybe I just really want a good aerobat. I watch the crazy foamies, and I don't want to go that extreme. I guess I want an aerobatic pylon racer

, if anything like that exists. I think the extra might be what I really want. I already have a stik type plane and I have my trainer set at the largest throws that I can get out of it. The stik is definitely more agile, but it can't do what I really want to do.
I believe that the generally accepted definition of 3D is maneuvers while the aircraft is stalled, the wings producing no real lift. Most typical aerobatic maneuvers do not fall into this category. In 3D one is flying on the prop only, using it for lift and enough airflow across the control surfaces to make them effective in changing the planes attitude.