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Old 06-03-2003 | 01:56 PM
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Santi and Salmon, here you go...

Here is a comprehensive list of the components in the 3dx and the Ultimate. First of all, I have been running a brushed set-up, and a brushless set-up. I’ll list the components for both. Both set-ups have full 3D and hovering capability. However, the brushless version takes it to the extreme. Also is a listing of where to purchase the components.

Brushed:
Power: GWS EPS300C “DS” gearing (6.6:1 ratio) comes with the motor
Speed Control: Castle Creations Pixie 20P
Prop GWS 12x6 or APC 12x6 Slowflyer
Battery: 8 cell Sanyo AAA 720ma NiMh
Servos: (3) Hitec HS55

Brushless:
Gearbox: GWS EPS300C “DS” gearing (6.6:1 ratio) take the motor out
Motor: Razor RZ350 brushless.
GWS 10 tooth pinion gear for motor
Speed Controller: Castle Creations Phoenix 25
Battery: E-Tec 3s1P 1200ma (3 cells in series) Lithium Polymer Batteries
Everything else is the same.


Glad I can help. I'll try to start you off slowly and not overwhelm you with all this electric stuff. I still fly gas stuff too, but the electrics are just so much fun for smaller spaces and less fuss. First of all, what type of Radio do you have? That will kind of determine what receiver direction we can go. I fly most of my electrics with a JR700 receiver with the case taken off to save some wt. JR has some nice smaller receivers too. If you want to go with the best small receiver, I would suggest the Berg 5 DSP http://www.aeromicro.com/berg5.htm It's a great little unit and it Will work with JR or Futaba. Make sure you order the correct crystal too.

Speed controllers are another issue entirely. They are broken down into 2 basic types. ESC's for brushed or brushless motors. For now, we'll stick with the brushed (conventional motor). I just bought a Castle Creations Pixie20P and am VERY happy with it. It will work well for the smaller Front yard/park type flyers. Brushless controllers are a bit more expensive Than the brushed, but brushless motors put out more power, last forever, and are pretty much maintenance free. www.nesail.com has good prices on the speed controllers. Also, Castle creations has a very good special going right now. A Razor RZ 350 plus a CC Phoenix 25 controller for $143.00. www.castlecreations.com

I would suggest Hitec HS 55's for servos. They are light and pretty strong. www.servocity.com has the best prices on those. If you order them, get a few sets of replacement gears too. Hangar bumps tend to strip them sometimes.

I am using an 8 cell Sanyo 4/5AAA 720ma NiMh battery in my plane. Great cells and pretty cheap too. http://www.aeromicro.com/Catalog/8-c...ck_1221781.htm decent price, you can do better at www.cheapbatterypacks.com

Motor and gearbox is the GWS EPS 300-C with "DS" gearing (6.6:1)
http://www.aeromicro.com/Catalog/gws...ds__803630.htm good price.

If you get the razor, you need to get a pinion gear for the motor. http://www.aeromicro.com/Catalog/gws...es_1707137.htm Order the 10T (DS) pinion.

Prop GWS 12x6 http://www.aeromicro.com/Catalog/gws...260_804577.htm
get a couple, you will break them...

Charger, I would seriously look at the Great Planes Triton charger http://www.edogfight.com/Catalog_page/chargers.htm The nice thing about it is that it will charge NiCads NiMh, and Lithium Polymer batteries. It's a bit pricey at 147.00 but the only other chargers that will do everything are in the 250.00- range. I got my charger for 99.00 It's a dymond Super Charger and I really like it http://www.rc-dymond.com/ But i had to buy a separate charger for my LiPo's.

LIpo's www.allerc.com www.b-p-p.com www.aircraft-world.com

Lipo charger www.allerc.com www.b-p-p.com www.aircraft-world.com I use the Apache Smart Charger 1500. It will charge up to 4 cells in series.

I know it can all be intimidating at first. The absolute best thing you Can do is start reading the forums on ezone. I learned everything I know About electrics there. Here is a link to my 3DX thread on Ezone. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...hreadid=115543

Read some of the other threads too and you will start to understand all of the terms and stuff. If you have more questions feel free to email. Or you can post a question on my 3DX forum too. That way you can get other opinions too. The best advice I can give you is read the threads at
ezone. www.ezonemag.com click on discussions, the foamies, or parkflyers etc. I fly 150mph+ electric ducted fans too. Electric is not what it used to be...

Hope this helps

Tim