You know something. If I didn't need the AMA site insurance for our land owner I would want nothing to do with it(the AMA) just because of this forum. I know it's a small minority of members who post here but come on this is ridiculous ,trolling, fighting, bad mouthing one another it makes me sick. I know I don't have to come to this forum and find myself here less and less. I guess I had hopes that someday things would change but its not happening. I suggest you all grow up and go fly something. That's what were supposed to be about not picking on another apart. Hoss I don't agree with you all the time and don't normally see things the way you do but thanks for the effort and Good Luck. Mike Taylor AMA#701133 Zip 79936