ODH, you were joking but I really did wait before I got my Robarts to come up in A rummage sale. Well, not quite but it was A big club auction. I spotted them in A milk crate and took A look, Oh My God!!! That crate was full of really good stuff. I ended up paying 25 bucks for the crate and got my meters I wanted plus so much other good stuff I can't even remember it all. I did sell the drill press vise that was in there for 25 bucks but kept and use everything else! My meters were brand new, maybe they once belonged to the crate cruncher at some point?? Minn forgot to mention taping A small level along the datum line before the meter so the plane is level, then you have to use your mark one eyeball!! Math hurts my head!!