i know in califorina we suffer from HORRIBLE clay problems, lots of cracked slabs, especally down here in so cal, great for tracks, bad for everything else. what the heck did they use on that track, its all grooved up!!! I thougt the 'groove' was suposed to be that high traction line only. Depending on your soil type (simple test take some soil, put it in a clean container, stir up and let sit for about 24 hours, if most of it is at the bottom with a fine layer of sand, your heavy clay soil, need some organic matter or sand). I know for our track it packs nice and hard, have yet to "hold a real mini race" on it yet, but it does work good. IMO a good racing surface is something hard packed that has consistent traction, wet is nice, but it takes time.... [&:]. I agree with shade on a drivers stand, nothing is worse than having the sun BEATING down on you forever. don't forget the "simple stuff" like, toilets, water, food...... Nice link Gex, i see freedom park raceway (its the closest to me)