I saw a couple incidents with the infamous Hangar-9 Raptor. One was at a grass strip, and the plane was all stock right down to the prop. The student was one of the club's seniority members, so he had some flight experience but wanted something more aerobatic. The instructor tuned the engine, used most of the runway to get airborne, and trimmed it out. No loops, no rolls, nothing specacular. The student never got the box. The instructor remarked that the plane was no fun to fly and that he had to use all the power available to keep it flying. That's the last I saw of that plane. Then this last Summer, I saw another student at a different club with the same make and model, only in the GREY color [X(] . One of the jet jocks had too much fun trying to undo some of mixes the guy programmed into the radio; it didn't fly that day.

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