Thanks for the input guys, In my research on this forum I have read many perspectives on trainers, some say the trainers dont fly like anything else, so If you learn on it then you try and fly everthing else the same way, Ive read the dacath likes rudder just like my super cub does. I dont even want to use the ailerons until i get used to flying the plane. Im already behind the 8 ball with training on the super cub, now with ailerons my controls will be all messed up from what I am used to. Im not really sure how to start with this aileron thing, I wish I would have started on a plane with ailerons, so I would not have to relearn the controls again. I know Im gonna turn my next plane into shrapnel at some time, BUT in my head, I think its worth the sacrifice to learn on the same kind of plane I plan to fly full time, decathalon, j-3 cub. I eventually want to get up to 1/4 scale cub or decathlon. I just dont know if i can deal with learning on a tricycle trainer then go back to a tail dragger and work out the whole control thing. I know Im rambling here, Would it be unreasonable to leave my radio set up with elevator and rudder on right stick and throttle and aileron on the other? To me it seems that would be easier to learn than to unlearn what I have already learned.................[sm=spinnyeyes.gif]