Both are not what I would call "good truggies", fair but their are much truggies on the market for similar money..The Muggy has clutch problems, strange spec on the hubs (hexes 20mm) the excessively wide tires is the cause for the clutch problems, switching to 17mm hexes is the most recommended hop up..but overall the Muggy is good..a better choice than the Hyper or Hellfire..