Guys, it will be best to keep looking for one NIB or used from an individual, because the Cermark PA-18 is not going to happen. I might be wrong, but its a strong feeling I have. I will no longer allow myself to get excited about a pipe dream. Which ever MFG that does come out with a scale PA-18 (that has the quality and is as scale as the DPM) will not be able to keep up with demand as DPM has already proven. I really feel for you guys that have waited for over 3 yrs now.