Ken4... I agree about the votec video.... the pilot looked ham handed or flying in a lot of wind. I am always suspicious of marketing video when they only give you 5 to 10 seconds of continuous flight at any given time....

In the first minute, I saw the plane almost dig in and crash... when he comes around in the inverted harrier with the bleachers in the back ground.... it was all bound up and the quick push to vertical was a save...

I think it is a bit of a twitchy rock.... not the best 3D Trainer around.

Remember... Bigger = Better and Easier!!

Here is another example of how a plane should harrier.... notice how docile this plane is... hard to get in a smaller plane... though the Jesky Extra from Fliton sure looks to be good

http://www.giantcircus.com/Videos/SX-Cable-2009.wmv