I think I have been to several, both before and after computers. I do not recall meeting you there, so maybe I wasn't in a real world after all.

I would be very interested in your perceptions of a real world both without and with computers. I am one of those that declines real business using email. To me, AMA is Not real business. Buying for myself, and selling my own real estate through my trust is real business. When I owned a Hobby Shop, no computers then, that was real business. When under the pre-'84 tax laws, I could no longer use the profitable business for tax avoidance, then I sold it out. That was IMO real world as tax avoidance was my main concern. Even donating to a charity can be profitable when certain appraised amounts, and certain tax brackets all mesh into a certain situation. Again, not done with a computer but definitely "real world" business! [sm=idea.gif]

Now those were several of my ideas of small real world experiences. Fighting both military hierarchy, and federal hierarchy, while accomplishing over 20,000 professional flight hours, both in combat ready time and civil air carrier, was also a real business.
My machines did not need a computer as they had a PILOT in the cockpit. [>:]