Thanks for all of the suggestions. I just mainly want a plane that I can fly all this season & learn some mild 3D, later on I'll probably be getting a profile or something and do the more "crazy stuff". Just kinda gradually get into more difficult 3D stuff ; gotta learn to walk before you can run My dad has a Mayhem, and a Pizzaz & he said that in his opinion I'd do fine on either one of them. Although, w/ the UCD 3D .60 it is still in need of an engine, servos, reciever, etc. It comes out to like $300 bucks. I've got some thinking to do Thanks again.

TF96