My personal experience with the ultimate is very easy to land, very axial rolls, no bad habits, pretty much good all around. I have also heard that the Dave patrick will fly cirlces aroung the CG! No personal experience with the CG, but the DP is by far the best plane i have ever flown. The only complaint i have with the DP is the pull pull, its quite hard to get it setup right on the elevators. I am not kidding when I say that the ultimate lands as easy as a trainer does. The wingloading is so little, and its just fun fun fun!!!