I have the coolest friends with the coolest toys! I can see that the diesel pusher and the larger trailer (properly balanced apparently) is the way to go. It was so nice having a vehicle to go to town and get whatever, I guess there is a little more planning during the packing phase. I can deal with that. I've been checking that PPL website, the guys from Houston. They have some below book values that are within my budget, but barely. I'm thinking that I'll just sock away some dough for a few months for a substantial down payment and then finance the rest over 5 years. Maybe debut this thing next season. Of course this is all dependent on them buying me out of the travel trailer. I'm sort of sitting back waiting to hear on that issue. Mike, thanks for the concern and the laugh. Had a great time up at MS. Watching you guys fly the zagi's and shoot the paint ball guns. What a great time.