Took it out again. The first take off was a little touchy. I moved the EI battery up about 5 or 6 inches. it flew a little better. I found that it stalls at a faster speed then any of my other planes. After learning that it seemed to fly great. Its still a little tail heavy but I like it where its at for 3D flying. The second take off was much better, ran it down the runway and it basicly took off on its own and much more stable. I think I was tring to over fly it while taking off. After three flights today I'm getting the feel for how its going to fly and Its a blast. thanks for all the help. James