Well, if you MUST have a 3-d style plane to train on  ,,,,,Not recommended, but you know that.....save yourself some money and go to the foamie pages. There are numerous electric models that you can build out of foam. You WILL crash them a lot... but they are repaired with little cost. Most of the plans even have recommendations as to which motors; ESC; battery packs etc. to use. If they don't..... ask the builder what he/she thinks. </p>

. Rich</p>