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Old 05-24-2009 | 03:33 PM
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Hi guys, please listen to my concerns and tell me what u think


I started RC in 2007... builted an arf (alpha40 trainer) flew in a club not to often on week-ends. My local club is like 40 minutes from where i live. Last summer i couldnt go because i had a son and he was too young. Now, unfortunately i am single and i have my son every two week-ends.... so i can go fly at every two week-ends ... follow me? And if the weather is not good then to bad for me .... no fly. this sucks!

i planned to go today, this after noon. So yesterday i charged up the batteries and this morning prepared all my stuff ... load the car... etc..

i get there and ... nobody is there! and i cant fly my plane by myself yet. Thats what they say. This is pissing me off real bad cauz i like this hobby but it gets very complicated !!! grrrrrr

I am thinking to buy a electric place (park flyer) so i can fly in my local park on week days... after diner if the winds are calm. So this way, i dont need the others to be there to be able to fly.

i want a model like a yak for 3d manoeuvers.

but i need some help to guide me through the purchase because they dont come with everything u need to build.
I allready have a tx it's a JR so i will need a flight pack for JR...

anyone wants to help me out?

thanks

Marc-Andre

Old 05-24-2009 | 03:48 PM
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if your not able to solo yet then your not gonna be able to handle a yak or somethin 3-d.
if ya wann do it alone my best advice has always been gliders. it what I taught myself on.
there are very nice electric gliders so you don;t have to deal with learning how to use a hi start, though hi starts are really fun, 100 foot rubber band what can be cooler.

anyway

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Old 05-24-2009 | 03:58 PM
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well glider are not my thing
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40 mins is nothing....I drove 30 to 35 mins when I lived up north.......get a field charger go to the club and fly on weekdays after work</p>

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I meant to use it as a trainer. if your anti glider then buy 3-4 3-d planes cause yur gonna break up 2-3 of em.
also thses are nearly indescructable
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Old 05-24-2009 | 04:08 PM
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jetmech, even after work i wont be able to fly, cauz i cant fly solo...
Old 05-24-2009 | 04:22 PM
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Well, if you MUST have a 3-d style plane to train on  ,,,,,Not recommended, but you know that.....save yourself some money and go to the foamie pages. There are numerous electric models that you can build out of foam. You WILL crash them a lot... but they are repaired with little cost. Most of the plans even have recommendations as to which motors; ESC; battery packs etc. to use. If they don't..... ask the builder what he/she thinks. </p>

. Rich</p>
Old 05-24-2009 | 04:32 PM
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No one here is going to be able to help you with your domestic problems and itsdoubtful anyone can help with your flying because the appropriate airplane for your situation is "Not Your Thing".

Failure to pick an appropriate airplane to learn with and this is even more important when you are going to try to teach yourself is virtually always a receipe for failure and at best a lot of wasted money.

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Hey Marcus,
"I feel your pain" ( as one of our former presidents was fond of saying...)
I haven't been able to fly for about a month!
Veryfew areat the field during the week (none of our club's approved insructors, anyway...)
I work a schedule where I work weekends for four weeks straight, then I have weekends off for four weeks.
It gets quite frustrating, especially when you do get a chance to fly and<u> then </u>the weather doesn't cooperate!
I can barely wait to get my training out of the way, so I can solo (fly) when I want to!
You'll get there.
Old 05-24-2009 | 05:16 PM
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Maybe I'm missing something but it seems to me that the obvious thing to do is schedule time with the instructors.
You said you drove 40 minutes and when you arrived nobody was there. So, in the future, arrange to meet with your club officers, instructors, etc in advance. Tell them when you can fly and arrange for someone from the club to meet you on those days.
Good luck!
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marcus,
There are several "electric foamy" that will fit the bill for you to go to the park. Tower Hobbies has lots. They will help you learn how to fly and safely, while being alone. These don't fly like "trainers" or even second planes, but will give you practice time. Pick what you want to fly and give it a try.
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Old 05-24-2009 | 10:23 PM
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First of all, you don't need anyone with you to fly, even if you have a giant scale. It may make it easier in some regards but if your flying a trainer you def don't anyone with you. An Edge 540 or a good mid wing plane for 3D would be ok to get into.</p>
Old 05-24-2009 | 10:39 PM
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this guy can't solo and your steering him to a mid wing or edge 540? this seems like a good choice for a beginner to you ? really ? tell me your kidding ......



ORIGINAL: dwake69



First of all, you don't need anyone with you to fly, even if you have a giant scale. It may make it easier in some regards but if your flyinga trainer you def don't anyone with you. An Edge 540 or a good mid wing plane for 3D would be ok to get into.</p>
Old 05-24-2009 | 10:49 PM
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this is a easy one, just get a simulator, like the fs one of real flight ect...then if you feel up to it and build up enough courage, try flying by yourself..whats the worse that could happen?... crash? no big deal..your going to crash an airplane if your in this hobby long enough... god knows ive crashed at least 3-4 and had many hard landings...hope this helps
Old 05-25-2009 | 05:19 AM
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Get the phone number of one of the instructors and set up a time to meet at the field...1 day a week plus the weekends should be plently
Old 05-25-2009 | 08:07 AM
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You got some good advice here (and some bad). I'll reiterate the good:

1) Get a flight simulator. That alone will help you learn much faster than just flying a trainer. RealFlight and FS One are both good. If you can't afford that, get FMS (Flying Model Simulator, which is free) and a USB controller ($25 at Tower).

2) Schedule time with your club's instructors. Get phone numbers and emails for 2-3 of them if you can, and try to set times/dates to meet up with them in advance.

3) Consider purchasing an inexpensive electric foam trainer like the HobbyZone Super Cub to fly on your own. The Super Cub is pretty easy to fly, fairly durable, and cheap &amp; easy to fix.

A simulator helped me solo after only 3 flights with an instructor. A 40 min drive to the field isn't bad, I have a 35 min drive and about half the guys I know have similar drives to their favorite fields. If you get yourself a Super Cub to fly on your own, you can probably find a park, field, or school yard to fly it at on the weekends or after work. You may even be able to bring your son to watch a flight or two.
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Marcus,
You say you can't fly solo... is this due to personal limitations, club rules or just good common sense? Personal limitations will vary in time, and with practice. Club rules are based on safety of persons and property... if noone else is there, and you can fly (ability), do it! Common sense will keep a smart feller from unneccessarily risking a plane. Any way you look at it, coordinate your time with a member that is able to help you. If, by some chance, that is impossible, find another club.

What ever you decide, learning to fly is like climbing a ladder... NOONE starts on the top rung!

Keep your head up on a swivel

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Old 05-25-2009 | 12:09 PM
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ORIGINAL: dwake69
if your flying a trainer you def don't anyone with you.
The original poster is in Canada.

I think the MAAC has some specific rules for pilot classifications Wings Program so he probably cannot legally fly solo without having a 'wings' certificate.
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Just remember, the trainer plane is a temporary thing, maybe a month or two to build your skills, it will be replaced with a plane that is more of your liking, but it's the skill set that it teaches that matters. A glider shouldn't be snarfed at, believe it or not, gliders are not only excellent trainers but can be some of the best planes to challange yourself on. A small rock of the wings will signal another thermal that could net you another hour in the air, some of the fastest R/C planes are gliders, just check out f3b gliders, I own a MEN gobbler that should hit the mid 200's in a speed run. So view the trainer as something to hold you over till you can get the bird you really want, yes I own one of those 3d yaks, electric that is, it's slow, but NOT a trainer plane, infact, if it weren't for the rudder and gear, it's real easy to forget which way is up on it, a round body with a wing in the middle far away looks the same rightside up or upside down.
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hi  this hobby is one that makes it necessary to start with a trainner type plane - some pilots will go back to there trainners often  to get the feel of the transmitter and  there flying feel  back again-the trainer moves SLOW   through all it does- to allow you to develop a feel for its manuvers   -you have to work your way up to flying low wing-taildragers and high power aircraft-   as they move very quickly-  and can -and will get ahead of you if your feel for the transmitter sticks is not  in  bread in your psychi-if you have to think about what you are doing -it could be  to late to save you plane-it has to be an automatic reaction from your trainning that will save the plane -do take the time to fly with an instructor -it will save you a lot of money -and get you through the early stages of the hobby-but when the you  has soloed you-your learing curve is just getting started-     now you will be on YOUR OWN     with- almost -the skills to fly your aircraft-  with a lot of determination and some crashing -you will get to be a good pilot-it takes a lot of determination-but you can get good enough to fly a lot and crash very seldom-thats when the hobby becomes a fun thing and a great day at the field with your fellow modelersyou will also learn to repair your aircraft and buid a model that is airworthy</p>

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