thanks for your input mate but spit has alreadybeen built and flown. heavy anyway 281/2 LBS may not be able to put diff push rods in elevater i was not happy with elev to mutch slop .by takeing out the push rod and giant servo that works it and putting two servos in tail and makingelevater and rudder lighter it will prob end up being about the same weight just want to now what torque perservos would be good.it flyes very well at that weight thanks for your help