jester s1,

Your post comes across as giving advice, without being judgemental.  I have no problem with that.  If I wasn't looking for some guidance, then I wouldn't be here.  I tell my bride that I know EVERTHING.  If you pormise not to tell her, then I will admit that there are some things I might not know.   Several people, resigned to the fact that the "instructor" thing is not for me, have made suggestions about what they think I might need to know to get me closer to the possibility of success.</p>

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You suggest that you don't care what the "approved" way is.  I'm kinda like that.  I want to find the way that works for me.  I don't think that makes me stubborn.  I think that it makes me knowlegable about how I, as one individual can learn.  I've done a bit of teaching.  I have concluded that not everyone learns the same way.  Rather than force someone to adapt to my sophomoric attempts at instruction, I try to find the meathod that the student "gets".  Some are hands on, some are theoretical.  Whatever works.  I know for me that lots of study, lots of observation (lurking on the boards) and then hands on works for me whenever I try to acquire a new skill set.

So Jester, I don't think you are a "granny", I think you have seen a sucessful method that works for some.  Maybe the majoirity. You don't condemn me or take shots at me 'cause I don't do it your way.  You only offer the suggestion of what you have senn work.  That's the difference between you and a "Granny" in my book.

Scroll thru the threads and note the people who have said "I wouldn't do it, but if you do, remember this....."  Those are the people that are helping....

Thanks

Paul</p>