Thanks Allen ,thats the info Ive been looking for.I just emailed Kay Tillman and hopefully find what Im looking for. I will also take your advice about contacting the class secretaries as well,they should have the most up to date info.Ive basically set my site on the N12 hull for a few reasons .It has close lines to the j class hulls and its 6 foot lenght is the size Ive been looking for. Looking to do a scale but functional deck within reason. Im still learning my way around the AMYA site. Thanks again Stephen