Thanks for info Ryan. I am using the DS9411SA's in the wing's. Using the Hyde mount, YS110DZ, latest (last ),one, with a nose ring. The YS110 is being replaced by a 115, may be here December, according to Central, no promise's. Looks like using the metal gear 3421 with the Hyde should do fine. I did not ask Central, except they may have more of the DS3421SA's in stock, just sent me two, I will check for more.

I have their mail from 10/1, advising me that servo is not available anymore.

Vince