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Old 07-04-2003 | 12:40 PM
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Jim_McIntyre
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Default How to progress to nose in

Originally posted by Vortexgen
Jim,
i have no idea of your experience but do remember this thread you posted recently

http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...77&forumid=202
Sure do... it was a reply to one of my heli students

As such, i can only assume you are very experienced in planes, with limited experience in helicopters but advancing very rapidly
Ok.... granted I'm no 3d expert with helis but can mange mild aerobatics.

It makes perfect sense for experienced plane guys to begin nose in hovering from nose in forward flight as no doubt you are comfortable with this orientation from your plane flying.

i think everyone flying RC is a "place yourself in the cockpit type", whether its a car, boat, plane or heli.

the NEAR/FAR rule, is not something i made up, but has been around for many years. It is the BEST way to learn NOW, if you have any inclination for inverted flight in future.
I'm familiar with it and the equivalent "prop up the low wing" method in fixed wing... I just don't believe they're the best method.
everything else you mention is a natural extension of the FAR rule and does not require thought.

Not sure what you mean by "pull away" but if this means you dont have a planned BAIL OUT procedure, I would question your ability as a (helicopter) instructor.
And so would I...
I was referring to the trick of remembering to pull aft on the fore-aft cyclic to get the heli away from you during nose-in. This is a natural extension of the FAR rules as I was told them... used to avoid hitting yourself....

sorry if my advice to other beginners offends you. [/B]
No offence taken (and none intended), as I began my post, "whatever works for you", we don't all learn the same and methods change over time.... I do recall the "inverted switch" being all the rage until Mike Mass taught us the right way.... )