ended up with another homie 25 with the one piece crank, this one is on a curved shaft no clutch, the fan/starter schroud is different from any I've seen, instead of the 1" spark plug guard, this one is about 2", the bottom of the schroud protrudes down so when you rest the thing on the ground it rests on that instead of the fuel tank, has a plastic back plate with a steel heat shield over the plastic sheld. Subtle but different.