This seems to be the general concensus.  I guess the question being compared to a coax, or for someone coming from a coax, how difficult might the 4#3b be to get going.  I got a chance to see the msr in action first hand today at my lhs and the pilot was showing my the hands of hovers, but when i asked to see the novus no one in the store would even bother.  There reasoning was the no one there COULD fly it!!!  And these guys spend all day on these things and the sim thats setup in store.  Sales pitch for eflite? or is it really that bad? 

-Jon