I've been flying my cx3 around outside now for 2 months and honestly its just not fun anymore. Its like driving a car after you've had your license for a year already - it just gets redundant and you already know how to do it. So my LHS has both the MSR and Novus FP. Now i understand the msr is more durable and easier to fly but im wondering if thats really a good thing. I want to move up to ccpm in a few months and im wondering how the msr is going to prepare me for it if its "easy"?

So i would just like some input from others who have flown either of these as to how much they really helped and if the higher sensitivity on the Novus is actually a good thing?
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the mSR will teach you orientation but it's not going to prepare you to move to a 'real' fp and certainly won't prep you for a cp heli. Now i also wouldn't recommend a Novus FP only because it is a rebadged Walkera and you can get a Walkera for a lot less. You would still use your lhs for parts in a pinch but you can save yourself a lot of money and get the latest and greatest by going with a Walkera. Clubheli.com, wowhobbies.com and http://www.rchobbyhelicopter.com are US based and provide great service, since you're east coast rick from clubheli would be your best bet.

if you can hover/fly a walkera 4#3B you WILL be able to HOVER ANY heli regardless of size or if it's CP or FP

This seems to be the general concensus.  I guess the question being compared to a coax, or for someone coming from a coax, how difficult might the 4#3b be to get going.  I got a chance to see the msr in action first hand today at my lhs and the pilot was showing my the hands of hovers, but when i asked to see the novus no one in the store would even bother.  There reasoning was the no one there COULD fly it!!!  And these guys spend all day on these things and the sim thats setup in store.  Sales pitch for eflite? or is it really that bad? 

-Jon

4to1, to be honest, I don't think either heli is the best next step for you. With your current skill and considering where you want to go in the hobby, you'd really be better off with something like an Esky HoneyBee FP V2, but many LHS won't carry Esky because the company doesn't offer dealers price protection. You'll want to fly outside and a 300 size heli like the HBFP V2 will do that easier than most of the small ones. You could go directly to a CP heli, but you're going to crash as you make this transition and the FP helis are a lot cheaper, faster and easier to fix. You can get them for as little as $99 with free shipping.

As AtTheCross says the MSr will teach you very little except orentation skills and you will learn them from your co-ax anyway, Novus FP (walkera 4#3B) is not easy to fly and if you can fly it then you will be able to fly just about any heli, however walkera have now made a easier model of it Called the CB100 that has a 45 deg flybar and is far more stable - its not as easy as the MSr but will teach you how a heli flys far better than the MSr and if at a later date if you really want the challange of the 4#3B you could always put a 4#3B head on it, so it will give you a good progression path.

Hiya,

I agree with Helihoodlem the cb100 is small enough to be flown indoors so you'll get lots of stick time, you dont have to worry about weather etc, its stable enough not to put you off but still challenging coming from a co-axe, and when you can handle that it wont cost much to put a 4#3b rotor head on it, if you start with a 4#3b you must be prepared for some tough times ahead, its very twitchy untill you sus it out took me six months to get a stable hover but its superb once you can fly it, HBFP is great if you have space or big garden or double garage ive got one too, but i dont fly it much cuz its too big for my flat and too dependant on the weather for outside(FP's dont like wind) i wish the CB100 had been available when i started, it would have saved me lots of frustration and money. Decisions yours but it is not an easy road whatever way you go, just dont give up and you'll soon be flying like the pro's.

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Ray

Jon, if you plan to fly outside as you've been doing for the past couple months, I'd still go with a larger heli like the HBFP V2. If you plan to get into the larger CCPM helis you'll be flying them outdoors anyway. I think one way is a step forward and the other way (sticking with small, easy to control helis) is a step sideways. If you plan to fly indoors now instead of outdoors like you've been doing, get a small heli or just stick with what you've got. There's nothing wrong with standing still in this hobby if that's what interests you, but it sounds like you want to move on.