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Old 11-06-2009 | 08:33 PM
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ORIGINAL: cccdad

Our club has a unique feild that is owned by the county park system and is open to all pilots so long as they have a Valid AMA membership.
Is there a rule to that effect posted on site by the city?



ORIGINAL: cccdad





As a club we have maintained a Fequency post board even for 2.4 to ensure that everyone is in compliance. 2.4 users especially non members have been resistant to post.
A frequency board for 2.4???? Isn't a frequency board a system to insure that there isn't a frequency conflict??? 2.4 typically isn’t a concern in that regard.



ORIGINAL: cccdad

It is a nightmare to ensure non club members are in compliance, but it is usally not a problem when you ask them to post an AMA card, they usually comply.
Why is that your concern???? I thought it was the county’s??? I’d say let them worry about it. Fly your airpain and foget about it….

ORIGINAL: cccdad


Here is where I had a unique run in. A long time pilot/former club member was flying 2.4 without posting his card. When I spoke to him he blew up and at one point threatened some physical violence. I backed off and reported it to the club President. I should also note that I am the club AMA safety officer and I was sure that his AMA was current because I was the CD at an event that this pilot showed up without an AMA membership and I renewed it at that time.
You know he has a current AMA card but you still have the audacity to ask him for it? Sounds like maybe you are singling him out.



ORIGINAL: cccdad

About 5 weeks later I saw the same pilot flying without posting his proof of AMA and asked him to comply. He again blew up and stated he was being targeted. Again the argument was heated he again threatened some violence that disrupted the flying at the feild. But notably he stated that he refused to post his AMA card because there is nothing I can do to stop him from flying, and because it was a public park our club rules did not apply to him.

I have been in contact with the Club President with no results. With land use so scarce I hate to involve the park system, But I have drawn the line at being threatened. I also conidered doing nothing this is a hobby and I dont need the stress, but I am not sure that is the ''right'' thing to do.

I have also read and considered the 1st line of the AMA safety code which talks about to be in compliance with the safety code you must abide by local club rules. Should the AMA have a report of this pilot.

In regards to club rules; one only needs to comply to the club rules they are a member of . Where I fly most often there are two clubs...on public property...each with different rules...we comply to our rules and the other club comply to theirs. We also have people that fly there that belong to neither club nor the AMA...no problem for us. How could it be???

It might not be a good outcome for your club if someone decides to force the county’s hand if they actually mandate affiliation to some particular organization such as AMA… Most municipalities understand the slippery slope of such mandates without being prompted…; but if they don’t they are fast studies if given the proper challenge. I wouldn’t recommend forcing such a challenge if possible… and work around it otherwise.

I think your club should just delete the rule in regards to 2.4 frq. board use...would go a long ways to ease conflict. Believe me…going to the police is a bad move…working this out otherwise is the answer…but by all means, do as you wish.

Good luck. Hope you can find the answer.