I have to agree wholeheartedly with you Dave.

There have been several "kids" at our field who've "wanted to fly pattern". Most of them "want to fly 3D" after failing to fly straight and level paralell to the runway for six or eight passes....and that is before they even try to center a maneuver!

It's amazing how pattern is "too boring" when they can't do it and "3D" is "more exciting" because they can do it quickly.

G