I don't understand the debate.

Isn't Mike simply proposing that ALL pattern have the same ranking? Having a "Pattern" category with sub-forums if I understand correctly.

I'm for equal ranking but I don't really understand what advantage this would bring to classic and electric (other than polls) or, for that matter, what disadvantage that would bring to people like Ryan who spend more time in the "contemporary" forum.

If I'm interested in a forum, I simply have a link to it - there's no navigation issue. In fact, I don't even ever use the links because my browser just opens up the RCU pages I'm interested in automatically.

I've never dug particularly deep but what I think would be useful is a directory of all the thread contained within a particular forum. Something that can be sorted alphabetically or chronologically (this part already exists) - on a single page. Let it be miles long - that doesn't bother me. Basically a forum index. Maybe this exists but I believe that as it stands you have to move forward page by page to navigate things - THIS is time consuming as one has to wait for each page to load. Of course, I'm aware of the search function.

David.