When did it become normal for people to expect thier airplanes to hover and helicopters to loop, roll, and fly inverted. I also remember a time when the club would hold a fun fly contest and you could actually compete with what you had. I guess I'm dating myself though. I only own one ARF which was given to me, and it has been modified, recovered with full lights, video and still cameras added. Oh it also is a .40 size with a .45 (I need the extra power for all the extra weight.) Other than a glider it is also the biggest plane I have flying.