well I crashed it. got ti to hover with a 12x8 prop thanks for all the help guys I am looking for another one to buy any anyone selling I also ran into guy at the field with one with a rossi 45 on it and that is the ticket. it has crazy power and 3d capability's. I have never seen such a good match. the rossi weighs less than the 46la and puts out 2.0hp same as the 65la wow