WELSH3D, how much is the flip, + Edge, interesed in both, might swap for Diablotin. Ali rates these very high, i personally reckon it's more a freestyle model than a 3D model. Before this starts a major reaction, what i mean by 3D is prop hanging manourves, that said it still prophangs, torque rolls ok. Will the os fx160 fit in the edge ? Will there be music, i have a generater but i'm worried i wont get everything back in the car! Can you do a torque roll circle???