A few years back I had an old beat up junky piece of garbage Vmar Stick 60 hanging in the garage without an engine and radio gear. I also had one of those Evolution 46's out of a Hangar 9 trainer my brother had that was sitting on the bench without a home. So I threw some radio equipment in that old stick plane 60 along with that Evolution 46 and flew the remaining life out of that old plane. It would do all the basic manuevers like rolls and loops, but verticle climb was pretty limited. The plane was loaded down with epoxy and anybody familiar with Vmar knows there wood appears to be something other then balsa. Kinda looks like a cottonwood and is total garbage, but I still had a ball flying the old thing even with the smaller then recommended engine.