ah. i will have to not be so lazy and take a look! on my next build, i have plenty of room to hid the extra cable, on the current model, not so much.

i like the flat cable as i have a large number of RJ-11 ends and a 11 dollar crimping tool to make telephone cables of what ever length i want, but it only works with flat cable.

i appreciate your advice.

have a great weekend

joe