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What it would be the effect/result on the airplane performance/flying characteristics of having less dihedral than the original design? The reason of my question is that I am building a 1/4 scale Sig Spacewalker II and I messed up the building of the 2 wing panels center section, and now I realized that I have much less dihedral, maybe 50% less, than what it supposed to have. To replace the center ribs and position them correctly, at this stage, it is impossible. The easiest way to correct my mistake is to make 2 new plywood dihedral braces with less dihedral, but I am not sure what it can happen when flying the plane.
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It will have less roll couple with rudder application which in my book is a good thing. Some will feel it will have less stability ( self leveling) however unless you build the wing almost flat I doubt you would actually notice the difference. I have a feeling that the amount of dihedral designed in was mainly for scale appearance.
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It will have less roll couple with rudder application which in my book is a good thing. Some will feel it will have less stability ( self leveling) however unless you build the wing almost flat I doubt you would actually notice the difference. I have a feeling that the amount of dihedral designed in was mainly for scale appearance.
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Hi,
Dihedral improves lateral stability, in other words, it improves the model's tendancy to roll wings level by itself after any sort of disturbance during straight and level flight.
The model should be less affected by crosswind the less deflection it has from the 180° plane. In other words, all other factors staying the same, a wing without di- or anhedral will be the most stable during crosswind take offs or landings.
During crosswind take offs or landings the plane is flown out of balance, also called cross controls. Ailerons into the wind and opposite rudder. This is to align the longitudinal axis with the runway and direction of travel, but to fight drift caused by wind. Any plane with dihedral would be more difficult to fly cross controls as the dihedral wants to roll the plane in the same direction as applied rudder. Also, a wing with dihedral or anhedral tends to be picked up or pushed down by a gust of crosswind more than a wing without any.
Big transport planes with top wings such as Antonovs, C17s and C5s have anhedral. Anhedral decreases lateral stability. This is intentionally designed into the plane to offset the huge stability created by the pendulum effect of hanging a lot of mass below the wings.
Dihedral improves lateral stability, in other words, it improves the model's tendancy to roll wings level by itself after any sort of disturbance during straight and level flight.
The model should be less affected by crosswind the less deflection it has from the 180° plane. In other words, all other factors staying the same, a wing without di- or anhedral will be the most stable during crosswind take offs or landings.
During crosswind take offs or landings the plane is flown out of balance, also called cross controls. Ailerons into the wind and opposite rudder. This is to align the longitudinal axis with the runway and direction of travel, but to fight drift caused by wind. Any plane with dihedral would be more difficult to fly cross controls as the dihedral wants to roll the plane in the same direction as applied rudder. Also, a wing with dihedral or anhedral tends to be picked up or pushed down by a gust of crosswind more than a wing without any.
Big transport planes with top wings such as Antonovs, C17s and C5s have anhedral. Anhedral decreases lateral stability. This is intentionally designed into the plane to offset the huge stability created by the pendulum effect of hanging a lot of mass below the wings.
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Everything mentioned so far is true. "Pendulum effect" is the key phrase in helping to visualize what dihedral does.
Also, if your ailerons happen to quit working while in flight, it would not make coordinated turns as well on rudder alone, if the dihedral is less. However, it would to flat turns much better. I happen to love doing flat turns, especially in front of full scale pilots that say you can't turn a plane on rudder alone.
Also, if your ailerons happen to quit working while in flight, it would not make coordinated turns as well on rudder alone, if the dihedral is less. However, it would to flat turns much better. I happen to love doing flat turns, especially in front of full scale pilots that say you can't turn a plane on rudder alone.
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Everything mentioned so far is true. "Pendulum effect" is the key phrase in helping to visualize what dihedral does.
Also, if your ailerons happen to quit working while in flight, it would not make coordinated turns as well on rudder alone, if the dihedral is less. However, it would to flat turns much better. I happen to love doing flat turns, especially in front of full scale pilots that say you can't turn a plane on rudder alone.
Also, if your ailerons happen to quit working while in flight, it would not make coordinated turns as well on rudder alone, if the dihedral is less. However, it would to flat turns much better. I happen to love doing flat turns, especially in front of full scale pilots that say you can't turn a plane on rudder alone.

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Many years ago, when I was an instructor, we'd fly a circuit in a Cessna 150 using no primary flying controls whatsoever. It'd be perfectly possible to land it likewise, but that was a liitle more than I was personally prepared to venture with someone else's aeroplane! The partial opening of doors, port and starboard gave yaw, and therefore roll without use of ailerons, the throttle and trim gave pitch control. If anyone is silly enough to try this without thousands of hours under your belt, it's your own silly fault if you prang it trying!
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What it would be the effect/result on the airplane performance/flying characteristics of having less dihedral than the original design? The reason of my question is that I am building a 1/4 scale Sig Spacewalker II and I messed up the building of the 2 wing panels center section, and now I realized that I have much less dihedral, maybe 50% less, than what it supposed to have. To replace the center ribs and position them correctly, at this stage, it is impossible. The easiest way to correct my mistake is to make 2 new plywood dihedral braces with less dihedral, but I am not sure what it can happen when flying the plane.
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A lot of the effect will depend on how the plane normally flies. If the plane normally has positive roll coupling with yaw, it will now have less. If it normally has no roll coupling with yaw, now it will have negative coupling. Dihedral also helps the plane self-correct in a sideslip stall, which you'll lose now. Overall, you might like the effect, or maybe not.





