YOU are the AMA!
09-29-2010 | 11:28 AM
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YOU are the AMA!
It's interesting to me that so many folks have this impression of the AMA as some kind of all-powerful ruling body and that its leadership is all-knowing or exceptionally wise. The AMA is us, RC flyers. Sit down with your District VP and grab a cheeseburger, and you'll soon discover that he's just an RC pilot, the same as you or me. These District VPs sometimes go on to serve in executive leader positions or help with various committees, but that doesn't make them any more all-knowing or powerful than the typical secretary or treasurer at your local flying club.
You are the AMA. The AMA was formed by pilots like you to represent you and your interests. If you want to change or influence the direction of the AMA, then you should run for District VP. If you're an RC pilot who is not an AMA member, then you can't complain about what the AMA is or isn't doing, because you're not participating in the AMA at even the most basic, fundamental level.
RC pilots need to work together to protect flying fields from outside interests, to protect radio frequencies from outside interests, and to share ideas and best practices for a safe and fun flying club experience. The AMA is the embodiment of that cooperative effort. The AMA protects our interests with the FAA and FCC, the AMA organizes affordable insurance packages for clubs that clubs can't get on their own, and the AMA provides a way to standardize contest rules and safety practices across the county.
Pissing and moaning about whatever might happen that rubs you the wrong way about our collective efforts to work together as RC modellers is useless and counterproductive. Get involved and contribute! The AMA is only as good as we make it.
You are the AMA. The AMA was formed by pilots like you to represent you and your interests. If you want to change or influence the direction of the AMA, then you should run for District VP. If you're an RC pilot who is not an AMA member, then you can't complain about what the AMA is or isn't doing, because you're not participating in the AMA at even the most basic, fundamental level.
RC pilots need to work together to protect flying fields from outside interests, to protect radio frequencies from outside interests, and to share ideas and best practices for a safe and fun flying club experience. The AMA is the embodiment of that cooperative effort. The AMA protects our interests with the FAA and FCC, the AMA organizes affordable insurance packages for clubs that clubs can't get on their own, and the AMA provides a way to standardize contest rules and safety practices across the county.
Pissing and moaning about whatever might happen that rubs you the wrong way about our collective efforts to work together as RC modellers is useless and counterproductive. Get involved and contribute! The AMA is only as good as we make it.
09-29-2010 | 11:41 AM
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RE: YOU are the AMA!
ORIGINAL: bigedmustafa
It's interesting to me that so many folks have this impression of the AMA as some kind of all-powerful ruling body and that its leadership is all-knowing or exceptionally wise. The AMA is us, RC flyers. Sit down with your District VP and grab a cheeseburger, and you'll soon discover that he's just an RC pilot, the same as you or me. These District VPs sometimes go on to serve in executive leader positions or help with various committees, but that doesn't make them any more all-knowing or powerful than the typical secretary or treasurer at your local flying club.
You are the AMA. The AMA was formed by pilots like you to represent you and your interests. If you want to change or influence the direction of the AMA, then you should run for District VP. If you're an RC pilot who is not an AMA member, then you can't complain about what the AMA is or isn't doing, because you're not participating in the AMA at even the most basic, fundamental level.
RC pilots need to work together to protect flying fields from outside interests, to protect radio frequencies from outside interests, and to share ideas and best practices for a safe and fun flying club experience. The AMA is the embodiment of that cooperative effort. The AMA protects our interests with the FAA and FCC, the AMA organizes affordable insurance packages for clubs that clubs can't get on their own, and the AMA provides a way to standardize contest rules and safety practices across the county.
Pissing and moaning about whatever might happen that rubs you the wrong way about our collective efforts to work together as RC modellers is useless and counterproductive. Get involved and contribute! The AMA is only as good as we make it.
It's interesting to me that so many folks have this impression of the AMA as some kind of all-powerful ruling body and that its leadership is all-knowing or exceptionally wise. The AMA is us, RC flyers. Sit down with your District VP and grab a cheeseburger, and you'll soon discover that he's just an RC pilot, the same as you or me. These District VPs sometimes go on to serve in executive leader positions or help with various committees, but that doesn't make them any more all-knowing or powerful than the typical secretary or treasurer at your local flying club.
You are the AMA. The AMA was formed by pilots like you to represent you and your interests. If you want to change or influence the direction of the AMA, then you should run for District VP. If you're an RC pilot who is not an AMA member, then you can't complain about what the AMA is or isn't doing, because you're not participating in the AMA at even the most basic, fundamental level.
RC pilots need to work together to protect flying fields from outside interests, to protect radio frequencies from outside interests, and to share ideas and best practices for a safe and fun flying club experience. The AMA is the embodiment of that cooperative effort. The AMA protects our interests with the FAA and FCC, the AMA organizes affordable insurance packages for clubs that clubs can't get on their own, and the AMA provides a way to standardize contest rules and safety practices across the county.
Pissing and moaning about whatever might happen that rubs you the wrong way about our collective efforts to work together as RC modellers is useless and counterproductive. Get involved and contribute! The AMA is only as good as we make it.
09-29-2010 | 11:49 AM
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AMAZING how some can hit a nail PERFECTLY on the head!! GREAT POST!!!!
Now put on your flame proof clothing.......THE attack will start soon......
Now put on your flame proof clothing.......THE attack will start soon......
09-29-2010 | 11:52 AM
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RE: YOU are the AMA!
ORIGINAL: K-Bob
This should be a ''sticky'' at the top of the page. Well said.
ORIGINAL: bigedmustafa
It's interesting to me that so many folks have this impression of the AMA as some kind of all-powerful ruling body and that its leadership is all-knowing or exceptionally wise. The AMA is us, RC flyers. Sit down with your District VP and grab a cheeseburger, and you'll soon discover that he's just an RC pilot, the same as you or me. These District VPs sometimes go on to serve in executive leader positions or help with various committees, but that doesn't make them any more all-knowing or powerful than the typical secretary or treasurer at your local flying club.
You are the AMA. The AMA was formed by pilots like you to represent you and your interests. If you want to change or influence the direction of the AMA, then you should run for District VP. If you're an RC pilot who is not an AMA member, then you can't complain about what the AMA is or isn't doing, because you're not participating in the AMA at even the most basic, fundamental level.
RC pilots need to work together to protect flying fields from outside interests, to protect radio frequencies from outside interests, and to share ideas and best practices for a safe and fun flying club experience. The AMA is the embodiment of that cooperative effort. The AMA protects our interests with the FAA and FCC, the AMA organizes affordable insurance packages for clubs that clubs can't get on their own, and the AMA provides a way to standardize contest rules and safety practices across the county.
Pissing and moaning about whatever might happen that rubs you the wrong way about our collective efforts to work together as RC modellers is useless and counterproductive. Get involved and contribute! The AMA is only as good as we make it.
It's interesting to me that so many folks have this impression of the AMA as some kind of all-powerful ruling body and that its leadership is all-knowing or exceptionally wise. The AMA is us, RC flyers. Sit down with your District VP and grab a cheeseburger, and you'll soon discover that he's just an RC pilot, the same as you or me. These District VPs sometimes go on to serve in executive leader positions or help with various committees, but that doesn't make them any more all-knowing or powerful than the typical secretary or treasurer at your local flying club.
You are the AMA. The AMA was formed by pilots like you to represent you and your interests. If you want to change or influence the direction of the AMA, then you should run for District VP. If you're an RC pilot who is not an AMA member, then you can't complain about what the AMA is or isn't doing, because you're not participating in the AMA at even the most basic, fundamental level.
RC pilots need to work together to protect flying fields from outside interests, to protect radio frequencies from outside interests, and to share ideas and best practices for a safe and fun flying club experience. The AMA is the embodiment of that cooperative effort. The AMA protects our interests with the FAA and FCC, the AMA organizes affordable insurance packages for clubs that clubs can't get on their own, and the AMA provides a way to standardize contest rules and safety practices across the county.
Pissing and moaning about whatever might happen that rubs you the wrong way about our collective efforts to work together as RC modellers is useless and counterproductive. Get involved and contribute! The AMA is only as good as we make it.
09-29-2010 | 12:50 PM
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Will the sticky include how PPP members have no voice, are not allowed in many clubs, get 1/4 of the insurance coverage for paying 1/2 the dues, and are called "cheap b@st@rds" by many of the by the "Real" AMA members. ?
09-29-2010 | 01:13 PM
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RE: YOU are the AMA!
There are far more avenues for folks to take,
when trying to change AMA in some way,
than just running for (and winning) an EC seat.
I, for example, civilly campaign / raise-awareness on the internet for a change in the way MA is ~subscribed~.
Nuthin wrong with that, right?
The members being allowed to initiate change to AMA is part of AMA... and it only takes 20 members using one avenue, other avenues, such as the Stealth Seat Grab take far more members. And gathering up those members on the internet is not forbidden.
when trying to change AMA in some way,
than just running for (and winning) an EC seat.
I, for example, civilly campaign / raise-awareness on the internet for a change in the way MA is ~subscribed~.
Nuthin wrong with that, right?
The members being allowed to initiate change to AMA is part of AMA... and it only takes 20 members using one avenue, other avenues, such as the Stealth Seat Grab take far more members. And gathering up those members on the internet is not forbidden.
09-29-2010 | 01:22 PM
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RE: YOU are the AMA!
ORIGINAL: K-Bob
This should be a ''sticky'' at the top of the page. Well said.
ORIGINAL: bigedmustafa
It's interesting to me that so many folks have this impression of the AMA as some kind of all-powerful ruling body and that its leadership is all-knowing or exceptionally wise. The AMA is us, RC flyers. Sit down with your District VP and grab a cheeseburger, and you'll soon discover that he's just an RC pilot, the same as you or me. These District VPs sometimes go on to serve in executive leader positions or help with various committees, but that doesn't make them any more all-knowing or powerful than the typical secretary or treasurer at your local flying club.
You are the AMA. The AMA was formed by pilots like you to represent you and your interests. If you want to change or influence the direction of the AMA, then you should run for District VP. If you're an RC pilot who is not an AMA member, then you can't complain about what the AMA is or isn't doing, because you're not participating in the AMA at even the most basic, fundamental level.
RC pilots need to work together to protect flying fields from outside interests, to protect radio frequencies from outside interests, and to share ideas and best practices for a safe and fun flying club experience. The AMA is the embodiment of that cooperative effort. The AMA protects our interests with the FAA and FCC, the AMA organizes affordable insurance packages for clubs that clubs can't get on their own, and the AMA provides a way to standardize contest rules and safety practices across the county.
Pissing and moaning about whatever might happen that rubs you the wrong way about our collective efforts to work together as RC modellers is useless and counterproductive. Get involved and contribute! The AMA is only as good as we make it.
It's interesting to me that so many folks have this impression of the AMA as some kind of all-powerful ruling body and that its leadership is all-knowing or exceptionally wise. The AMA is us, RC flyers. Sit down with your District VP and grab a cheeseburger, and you'll soon discover that he's just an RC pilot, the same as you or me. These District VPs sometimes go on to serve in executive leader positions or help with various committees, but that doesn't make them any more all-knowing or powerful than the typical secretary or treasurer at your local flying club.
You are the AMA. The AMA was formed by pilots like you to represent you and your interests. If you want to change or influence the direction of the AMA, then you should run for District VP. If you're an RC pilot who is not an AMA member, then you can't complain about what the AMA is or isn't doing, because you're not participating in the AMA at even the most basic, fundamental level.
RC pilots need to work together to protect flying fields from outside interests, to protect radio frequencies from outside interests, and to share ideas and best practices for a safe and fun flying club experience. The AMA is the embodiment of that cooperative effort. The AMA protects our interests with the FAA and FCC, the AMA organizes affordable insurance packages for clubs that clubs can't get on their own, and the AMA provides a way to standardize contest rules and safety practices across the county.
Pissing and moaning about whatever might happen that rubs you the wrong way about our collective efforts to work together as RC modellers is useless and counterproductive. Get involved and contribute! The AMA is only as good as we make it.
Well said BIG, way to many whiners sometimes. It just gets old to hear them, wish they would go away.
09-29-2010 | 01:38 PM
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Sorry but I see your comments not adding to but rather correcting the OP's opening statement. YOU are by all means NOT usually backing the AMA......
09-29-2010 | 05:55 PM
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Sorry but I see your comments not adding to but rather correcting the OP's opening statement. YOU are by all means NOT usually backing the AMA......
and I showed more ways,
then that would be me correcting him.
But that wasnt what he said.
He mentioned one correct method,
and I added other correct methods to the list he started.... I never tried to take his method off the list.
There was no 'correction' from me,
there was no 'attack' from me,
its just you trying real hard to get mad at stuff I never said.
..
And FYI, I usually AM trying to back the AMA.
Its just that the folks willing to settle for a 'good' AMA
stand in the way of us trying to forge a GREAT AMA.
09-29-2010 | 06:21 PM
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RE: YOU are the AMA!
ORIGINAL: tinner1
Sorry but I see your comments not adding to but rather correcting the OP's opening statement. YOU are by all means NOT usually backing the AMA......
Sorry but I see your comments not adding to but rather correcting the OP's opening statement. YOU are by all means NOT usually backing the AMA......
KE's post, when read without emotion or expectations, does merely come across as mentioning other ways to be active and work for change. They are valid, and
probably more acceptable to most people as the majority of us in the hobby do not have the time and money to do the traveling associated with being a DVP or higher.
Oh yeah, good post Ed.
09-29-2010 | 06:31 PM
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RE: YOU are the AMA!
Here is part of the general problem on forums. Rather than just read the words, at times it seems people add intent and tone into places it does not exist
09-29-2010 | 06:38 PM
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RE: YOU are the AMA!
ORIGINAL: tinner1
YOU should know about adding intent and switching meanings.......
Here is part of the general problem on forums. Rather than just read the words, at times it seems people add intent and tone into places it does not exist
09-29-2010 | 07:08 PM
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ORIGINAL: Arbo
Thank you proving my point.
ORIGINAL: tinner1
YOU should know about adding intent and switching meanings.......
Here is part of the general problem on forums. Rather than just read the words, at times it seems people add intent and tone into places it does not exist
09-29-2010 | 08:07 PM
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Ed,
Thank you for the great post! Where most people are just talkers, you area doer. You create interest in the hobby, which creates new members. You are what the hobby needs.
I have sat in the background for the past couple of years and watched what you have done for the hobby in Omaha. You have sparked an interest in people that would had not otherwise had the opportunity.
I and many others appreciate your devotion to the hobby.
Thanks for your hard work, it does not go un-noticed.
Proud Omahawk.
Thank you for the great post! Where most people are just talkers, you area doer. You create interest in the hobby, which creates new members. You are what the hobby needs.
I have sat in the background for the past couple of years and watched what you have done for the hobby in Omaha. You have sparked an interest in people that would had not otherwise had the opportunity.
I and many others appreciate your devotion to the hobby.
Thanks for your hard work, it does not go un-noticed.
Proud Omahawk.
09-29-2010 | 09:02 PM
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Wow, we have a regular love-fest going on here in an AMA Discussions thread! Whodathunk? Thanks for the kind words, zac137. One of my operating theories is that, since flying RC aircraft is a hobby, we're probably doing it wrong if we're not having fun.
I have no objections to KidEpoxy's comments. Voicing an opinion and encouraging others to do so as well definitely qualifies as getting involved.
I view the AMA as an extension of my club. I join my club to help pay for the mowing and to make sure I have a place to fly. I join the AMA to help with making sure we have radio frequencies to fly on and because I like to know that folks won't be sticking M-80s in their planes while I'm trying to fly next to them.
My club is only as good as the folks who volunteer to help run it. The AMA is only as good as the folks who help volunteer to run it. The folks involved in my club have various areas of skills and talent, but they're just RC hobbyists the same as me. The folks involved in managing the AMA have various areas of skills and talent, but they're just RC hobbyists the same as me.
The realization that the AMA is little more than a national RC flying club without secret agendas, supreme authority, or ominous powers might help folks get past bashing the only national organization that helps RC pilots work together and to support our common interests, imperfect though that organization might be. I'd much rather see the AMA trying different things that may or may not work out; doing nothing is very rarely the best course of action.
I've flushed a lot of money away since I started flying a half a dozen years ago. Not once has it ever crossed my mind that I wasn't getting my $5 per month worth of value from my AMA membership.
I have no objections to KidEpoxy's comments. Voicing an opinion and encouraging others to do so as well definitely qualifies as getting involved.
I view the AMA as an extension of my club. I join my club to help pay for the mowing and to make sure I have a place to fly. I join the AMA to help with making sure we have radio frequencies to fly on and because I like to know that folks won't be sticking M-80s in their planes while I'm trying to fly next to them.
My club is only as good as the folks who volunteer to help run it. The AMA is only as good as the folks who help volunteer to run it. The folks involved in my club have various areas of skills and talent, but they're just RC hobbyists the same as me. The folks involved in managing the AMA have various areas of skills and talent, but they're just RC hobbyists the same as me.
The realization that the AMA is little more than a national RC flying club without secret agendas, supreme authority, or ominous powers might help folks get past bashing the only national organization that helps RC pilots work together and to support our common interests, imperfect though that organization might be. I'd much rather see the AMA trying different things that may or may not work out; doing nothing is very rarely the best course of action.
I've flushed a lot of money away since I started flying a half a dozen years ago. Not once has it ever crossed my mind that I wasn't getting my $5 per month worth of value from my AMA membership.
09-30-2010 | 05:28 AM
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ORIGINAL: bigedmustafa
Wow, we have a regular love-fest going on here in an AMA Discussions thread! Whodathunk? Thanks for the kind words, zac137. One of my operating theories is that, since flying RC aircraft is a hobby, we're probably doing it wrong if we're not having fun.
I have no objections to KidEpoxy's comments. Voicing an opinion and encouraging others to do so as well definitely qualifies as getting involved.
I view the AMA as an extension of my club. I join my club to help pay for the mowing and to make sure I have a place to fly. I join the AMA to help with making sure we have radio frequencies to fly on and because I like to know that folks won't be sticking M-80s in their planes while I'm trying to fly next to them.
My club is only as good as the folks who volunteer to help run it. The AMA is only as good as the folks who help volunteer to run it. The folks involved in my club have various areas of skills and talent, but they're just RC hobbyists the same as me. The folks involved in managing the AMA have various areas of skills and talent, but they're just RC hobbyists the same as me.
The realization that the AMA is little more than a national RC flying club without secret agendas, supreme authority, or ominous powers might help folks get past bashing the only national organization that helps RC pilots work together and to support our common interests, imperfect though that organization might be. I'd much rather see the AMA trying different things that may or may not work out; doing nothing is very rarely the best course of action.
I've flushed a lot of money away since I started flying a half a dozen years ago. Not once has it ever crossed my mind that I wasn't getting my $5 per month worth of value from my AMA membership.
Wow, we have a regular love-fest going on here in an AMA Discussions thread! Whodathunk? Thanks for the kind words, zac137. One of my operating theories is that, since flying RC aircraft is a hobby, we're probably doing it wrong if we're not having fun.
I have no objections to KidEpoxy's comments. Voicing an opinion and encouraging others to do so as well definitely qualifies as getting involved.
I view the AMA as an extension of my club. I join my club to help pay for the mowing and to make sure I have a place to fly. I join the AMA to help with making sure we have radio frequencies to fly on and because I like to know that folks won't be sticking M-80s in their planes while I'm trying to fly next to them.
My club is only as good as the folks who volunteer to help run it. The AMA is only as good as the folks who help volunteer to run it. The folks involved in my club have various areas of skills and talent, but they're just RC hobbyists the same as me. The folks involved in managing the AMA have various areas of skills and talent, but they're just RC hobbyists the same as me.
The realization that the AMA is little more than a national RC flying club without secret agendas, supreme authority, or ominous powers might help folks get past bashing the only national organization that helps RC pilots work together and to support our common interests, imperfect though that organization might be. I'd much rather see the AMA trying different things that may or may not work out; doing nothing is very rarely the best course of action.
I've flushed a lot of money away since I started flying a half a dozen years ago. Not once has it ever crossed my mind that I wasn't getting my $5 per month worth of value from my AMA membership.
Good post and thanks. Something came to mind about the post I am curious about. So your club is all volunteer and no membership fee?
I know in our current club we pay 100$ a year as dues and we don't have a volunteer program. The only voluntary aspects were the setting up of the club and doing minutes, and things like that. People are assigned mowing task and so forth, but the club is not volunteer as it is dues based. We get a sheet that tells us what our club dues pays for and we know where every bit is spent on. (portajohn, land rent, gas, etc.)
Having a volunteer club is interesting and of course, if that is the case why would anyone expect anything for their money since no money is changing hands. Not everyone is that fortunate. Most have to rent fields, require AMA membership, etc., and it cost quite a bit when all is said and done. I read one post not long ago and they stated thier field was something along the lines of 1000 a month! Must be nice not to have to deal with those type of costs.
Thanks again for the post and keep up the good work.
09-30-2010 | 05:50 AM
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Could it be that BIG ED was referring to the "volunteers" that serve as club officers and "run" his club, rather than all the members "volunteering" to be members at no cost?
As a former club officer in several clubs, I enlisted the help of a number of club members to help get things done, with no financial compensation coming back to me.
Membership dues are all a part of the game.
Remember the "90-10 Rule":
"90% of the work gets done by 10% of the membership"
And that may be an over-estimation!
As a former club officer in several clubs, I enlisted the help of a number of club members to help get things done, with no financial compensation coming back to me.
Membership dues are all a part of the game.
Remember the "90-10 Rule":
"90% of the work gets done by 10% of the membership"
And that may be an over-estimation!
09-30-2010 | 06:26 AM
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ORIGINAL: pettit
Could it be that BIG ED was referring to the ''volunteers'' that serve as club officers and ''run'' his club, rather than all the members ''volunteering'' to be members at no cost?
As a former club officer in several clubs, I enlisted the help of a number of club members to help get things done, with no financial compensation coming back to me.
Membership dues are all a part of the game.
Remember the ''90-10 Rule'':
''90% of the work gets done by 10% of the membership''
And that may be an over-estimation!
Could it be that BIG ED was referring to the ''volunteers'' that serve as club officers and ''run'' his club, rather than all the members ''volunteering'' to be members at no cost?
As a former club officer in several clubs, I enlisted the help of a number of club members to help get things done, with no financial compensation coming back to me.
Membership dues are all a part of the game.
Remember the ''90-10 Rule'':
''90% of the work gets done by 10% of the membership''
And that may be an over-estimation!
We have discussed this before to some degree. It is like the golf club or many other clubs you could get involved with. You join and pay membership, but you are not expected to do field maintenance and repair the golf carts, etc. They may ask you to assist with certain events throughout the year, but most of the things you paid your dues for are included in your membership dues. The bad part is this may change from club to club and there is no standard of expectation within RC clubs. Certainly membership costs would be much higher if there were no volunteers to mow and do all the other things needed to get done.
The is just the reality of it and does not mean it is good or bad, just the way it is.
09-30-2010 | 07:52 AM
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Luchnia,
It's not often I can say I agree with you...
As I was reading your post I was already forming a response until you said....
YES it is a sad reality, but for a different reason I think. I attend every function my club has. There are a lot of members that don't come to work days, or other club functions, but to me they are the ones missing out, more so than I am being asked to do more than pay dues. I'm NOT knocking those that only pay dues and let the others do all the work. I AM saying that the friendship and brotherhood I get from working with my fellow club members is worth the time I volunteer. I have plenty of places to fly alone, and sometimes I want to do just that, enjoy this hobby alone. But humans/I am a social being. Sharing like experiences increases those experiences, and I wish more members could/would experience that. Just MHO.....
It's not often I can say I agree with you...
As I was reading your post I was already forming a response until you said....
Certainly membership costs would be much higher if there were no volunteers to mow and do all the other things needed to get done.
The is just the reality of it and does not mean it is good or bad, just the way it is.
The is just the reality of it and does not mean it is good or bad, just the way it is.
