The sun rises in the east. Now, let's see how many nonsensical posts from KE that generates.

Yes, that is correct, I would violate the 100 MPH rule on private property but I would adhere to Muncie at AMA fields, regardless if a local club enforced a speed limit or not. Thank you KE, it's very kind of you and I wish you safe flying as well!

Dave

Could one deduce that you are the official representitive of the kiddies playing king of the hill based on your provisional statements, which concur with the omnidrectional ufo sightings so often reported and discussedin the numerous, non-stop, never ending AMA debates that the OPmentioned at the onset ofthis particular thread?

I think you got it, KE.

It may useful to make note of the fact (from [link=http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/question.aspx]FAQ[/link] on the AMA website) that compliance with the COB rules would be voluntary. We all know how that worked out for compliance with FAA's AC 91-57.

"Q. How will the FAA and/or the AMA enforce these restrictions?

The enforcement of the Federal Aviation Regulations within the Code of Federal Regulations (CFRs) fall under the jurisdiction of the FAA. Enforcement of the sUAS regulation and the adopted standards will be at the discretion of the FAA. AMA will continue to encourage voluntary compliance with its policies, procedures and National Model Aviation Safety Code."

Just switch to 75MHz and fly an inch above the ground. Now you have a surface model that goes 100+ mph. [&:]

why even post this thread? ridiculas

I highly doubt the FCC is going to give half a -beep- what I'm flying off my driveway way out in the countryside, so no, FCC changes won't have any affect on what I fly.

Cj rumly is trying to be another kid or ferret so lets see how many nonsensical posts from ke and Cj agrees with.lol Oh. no ones going to stop me from flying if iam flying safely. joe

Think we can get the DOT to start mess'n with the rc car guys?

The DOT can't even touch full scale cars that aren't run on public roads.

You are correct, this is a ridiculous thread.

Did you vote yet?

You are correct, FCC will not care but, and this is a big but, the FAA just might care.

Well, unless cattle gain the ability to call in a report, they won't either. I'm seriously that far out into the sticks.

I have not found that anyone in the AMA is a noted expert in model or high power rocketry.....and that airline pilot you speak of is one of those that suffers from the illusion that he, being an airline pilot, is therefore an expert about anything he brings his mind to bear on.... There is no permit required for model rockets as he thought and there is no 5k altitude limit after which you need a permit as stated by the AMA, as a simple perusal of the NAR and Tripoli web sites, as well as the FAA 101.21 rules on model rockets, will show.

Basically model and mid power rockets weighing up to 3.3lbs with no more than 4.4 oz of propellant do not require a "permit" or waiver of any kind.
(updated in 2009..previously, mid power models needed a notification to the local FAA entity before launch) High power rockets with power greater than a G motor of 160n/s (or a model with multiple motors of more than 320n/s) require an FAA airspace waiver for a specific site, time and date to be legally operated. However, it is a very rare model or mid power rocket that exceeds 5k agl. The power limits for model and mid power rockets do have the effect of limiting altitude to less than 5K feet, in the very vast majority of cases.

As model rockets and even high power rockets tend to operate for only a few moments in the national airspace, they are not considered to be all that much of an issue...they simply do not have the persistence of duration that model aircraft and sUAS aircarft have. Even the high alitude high power models typically have a system that delays primary recovery system opening until the rocket has fallen back to a low altitude...the larger HP models rarely much time hanging under a chute above 500-1000 feet, as no one wants to chase it for miles......

A side note to LCS...your previously mentioned hope in post 8 in this thread is granted, in terms of who may obtain FAA waivers, if the same process holds true for waivers related to model aircraft operations. FAA waviers for rocket operations have been granted to national groups, local clubs without national affilation, educational entities and even to informal goups and single individuals that have requested one.

Well, I fly in a "cow field"  and no  one is going to even bother to tell me to slow down.  I'm more worried about how heavy handed they might get with FPV.

I am worried about my park fliers the local police can get involved then

In most of the cities/towns in my area there is no "park" in park flyers. Simply put RC flight is not allowed in the parks at all. Then again this is California, where everything is prohibited unless specifically allowed by law.

Yep, park flyers are already heavily regulated out of most normal metro park areas. This will continue to have much more effect on park flyers than the upcoming FAA rules will likely ever have on park flyer models

While I appreciate your candid discussion and well intented argument, please consider the FACT that I did not say Greg Hahn was AMA's model rocket expert, he simply answered the questions we posed. Moreover, and in the event you weren't aware, AMAcoverage INCLUDESrockets, as well as boats, cars, andairplanes...........

Ahh, I see. You'reattempting to sidetrack this thread.

DIDYOUVOTEYET?

Not true.
Where is this documented??

If a craft of any kind does not ROG, then the AMA has nothing to do with it.

Yes, true

http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/500-a.pdf

Thank you for aiding my defense.

AMA also posts rocket insure here, first line under SERVICE.

Supposition, a lot like shooting a gun without first aiming.

Did you vote yet?

Well I'll be...

... boats and cars?? What kind of coverage do they get?

Better question: how much do they need?


Unless you're running a fifth scaler you don't have that much capability for damage with cars. They don't weigh very much, so aside from the odd broken leg or concussion there isn't much that can happen to a person. They also tend to bounce off of obstacles like walls and car tires, usually in multiple tiny little fragments, rather than damage such things.

The only plausible ways for someone to get injured with an RC car is either A: Operator stupidity, B: Spectator stupidity, or C: Un-attenuated nitro runaway. C is really only a hazard when bashing, and even then only when A and/or B is present as well. I've never had any issues regarding injury because spectators are few, if I have any at all, and when I have a runaway I make it clearly known so everyone can get out of the way.