Changing of the Guard !!!
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ORIGINAL: Lifer
A sad day for the AMA. He will pursue his own agenda, right or wrong, and the wishes of the constituents will be utterly ignored.
A sad day for the AMA. He will pursue his own agenda, right or wrong, and the wishes of the constituents will be utterly ignored.
Now if you are speaking of Mark Smith, I'll ask the same question, what is the basis of the opinion and how do you think he will impose his agenda, whatever that may be, on the other 12 EC members?
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ORIGINAL: Silent-AV8R
What is the basis of this opinion? Dave has done a great job as the President and I think he will do a great job managing the staff. Do people realize that this is a demotion in a sense. The EC sets the agenda and determines what is going to be done. They are the bosses. The ED then implements their directives. The ED does not make policy, he executes it. As such it is not very likely he can impose his ''agenda'' on anything.
Now if you are speaking of Mark Smith, I'll ask the same question, what is the basis of the opinion and how do you think he will impose his agenda, whatever that may be, on the other 12 EC members?
ORIGINAL: Lifer
A sad day for the AMA. He will pursue his own agenda, right or wrong, and the wishes of the constituents will be utterly ignored.
A sad day for the AMA. He will pursue his own agenda, right or wrong, and the wishes of the constituents will be utterly ignored.
Now if you are speaking of Mark Smith, I'll ask the same question, what is the basis of the opinion and how do you think he will impose his agenda, whatever that may be, on the other 12 EC members?
Lifer stated a basis of opinion in his #4 post. As I read the EC minutes for all meetings as soon as they are distributed, then analyze more on what was NOT said than what WAS said, I am in 100% agreement with Lifer.
Now for all to be aware, I offered a deal to you. I would nominate YOU for both President and Ex. VP if you would nominate me for Ex. VP. Your reply, paraphrased, was that you would not run and if elected you would not serve.
Now I ask you, Bill, if you want to play soldier why are you afraid of the battle?
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Later Late Breaking News
April 19, 2011
TO: AMA district leadership, Leader Members and AVPs
FR: Chris Brooks, APR
Public Relations & Development Director
RE: Correction to ED announcement
Please be advised that, according to the AMA bylaw committee, what follows is a correction to the ED announcement release on April 15. According to the bylaws, Executive Vice President Mark Smith has not succeeded Dave Mathewson as AMA president, per se, but will only assume the duties of president of the AMA until a special election can be held for a new president this fall. Mark Smith remains Executive Vice President, per the bylaws, and is performing presidential duties until that special election.
An amended media release, below, on the AMA website now reflects this. In addition, subsequent print and electronic communications going forward will also communicate this technicality. We apologize for this miscommunication and any misunderstanding it may have caused.
View the release on modelaircraft.org
April 19, 2011
TO: AMA district leadership, Leader Members and AVPs
FR: Chris Brooks, APR
Public Relations & Development Director
RE: Correction to ED announcement
Please be advised that, according to the AMA bylaw committee, what follows is a correction to the ED announcement release on April 15. According to the bylaws, Executive Vice President Mark Smith has not succeeded Dave Mathewson as AMA president, per se, but will only assume the duties of president of the AMA until a special election can be held for a new president this fall. Mark Smith remains Executive Vice President, per the bylaws, and is performing presidential duties until that special election.
An amended media release, below, on the AMA website now reflects this. In addition, subsequent print and electronic communications going forward will also communicate this technicality. We apologize for this miscommunication and any misunderstanding it may have caused.
View the release on modelaircraft.org
#30
ORIGINAL: Hossfly
Bill, do a little research. Read post #4 and then check that in Lifer's quoted post that you question, Lifer was replying to me, Hossfly. There is no question that he is speaking of Smith. Besides his description can only fit Smith. Therefore Lifer is not speaking of Mathewson. [8D]
Bill, do a little research. Read post #4 and then check that in Lifer's quoted post that you question, Lifer was replying to me, Hossfly. There is no question that he is speaking of Smith. Besides his description can only fit Smith. Therefore Lifer is not speaking of Mathewson. [8D]
Now I ask you, Bill, if you want to play soldier why are you afraid of the battle?
To quell the fears of some, the AMA has issued a correction to the press release:
Please be advised that, according to the AMA bylaw committee, what follows is a correction to the ED announcement release on April 15. According to the bylaws, Executive Vice President Mark Smith has not succeeded Dave Mathewson as AMA president, per se, but will only assume the duties of president of the AMA until a special election can be held for a new president this fall. Mark Smith remains Executive Vice President, per the bylaws, and is performing presidential duties until that special election.
An amended media release, below, on the AMA website now reflects this. In addition, subsequent print and electronic communications going forward will also communicate this technicality. We apologize for this miscommunication and any misunderstanding it may have caused.
An amended media release, below, on the AMA website now reflects this. In addition, subsequent print and electronic communications going forward will also communicate this technicality. We apologize for this miscommunication and any misunderstanding it may have caused.
Added: Typing at the same Time Horrace!!
#31
ORIGINAL: Hossfly
Now for all to be aware, I offered a deal to you. I would nominate YOU for both President and Ex. VP if you would nominate me for Ex. VP. Your reply, paraphrased, was that you would not run and if elected you would not serve.
Now I ask you, Bill, if you want to play soldier why are you afraid of the battle?
Now for all to be aware, I offered a deal to you. I would nominate YOU for both President and Ex. VP if you would nominate me for Ex. VP. Your reply, paraphrased, was that you would not run and if elected you would not serve.
Now I ask you, Bill, if you want to play soldier why are you afraid of the battle?
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My opinion was based upon several conversations with Smith, face-to-face prior to the disassembling of the Airshow Teams, and conversations with members of the AMA Heat of America Airshow team that were active members when he had his brief and unsuccessful term as prersident of that same team.
I flew with the team for 7 years and worked sdie-by-side with those who were under his control. He is not necessarily a bad guy, he just runs things by his own rules and gives no credence to the opinions of others. If you want to understand him better, I recommend you read The Prince, by Machiavelli.
I hope that this issue gets a LOT more public before the election.
I flew with the team for 7 years and worked sdie-by-side with those who were under his control. He is not necessarily a bad guy, he just runs things by his own rules and gives no credence to the opinions of others. If you want to understand him better, I recommend you read The Prince, by Machiavelli.
I hope that this issue gets a LOT more public before the election.
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ORIGINAL: Lifer
My opinion was based upon several conversations with Smith, face-to-face prior to the disassembling of the Airshow Teams, and conversations with members of the AMA Heat of America Airshow team that were active members when he had his brief and unsuccessful term as prersident of that same team.
My opinion was based upon several conversations with Smith, face-to-face prior to the disassembling of the Airshow Teams, and conversations with members of the AMA Heat of America Airshow team that were active members when he had his brief and unsuccessful term as prersident of that same team.
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ORIGINAL: Lifer
My opinion was based upon several conversations with Smith, face-to-face prior to the disassembling of the Airshow Teams, and conversations with members of the AMA Heat of America Airshow team that were active members when he had his brief and unsuccessful term as prersident of that same team.
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My opinion was based upon several conversations with Smith, face-to-face prior to the disassembling of the Airshow Teams, and conversations with members of the AMA Heat of America Airshow team that were active members when he had his brief and unsuccessful term as prersident of that same team.
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Must be a plan there.........how many new dues-paying members does it take to offset the compensation of another marketeer?
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Someone please refresh my memory, I can't seem to find the posts; When was the announcement made that the AMA was looking for a new leader?
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ORIGINAL: P-51B
Someone please refresh my memory, I can't seem to find the posts; When was the announcement made that the AMA was looking for a new leader?
Someone please refresh my memory, I can't seem to find the posts; When was the announcement made that the AMA was looking for a new leader?
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ORIGINAL: P-51B
Someone please refresh my memory, I can't seem to find the posts; When was the announcement made that the AMA was looking for a new leader?
Someone please refresh my memory, I can't seem to find the posts; When was the announcement made that the AMA was looking for a new leader?
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ORIGINAL: Silent-AV8R
The job was posted back in late August 2010 after Jim Cherry resigned.
ORIGINAL: P-51B
Someone please refresh my memory, I can't seem to find the posts; When was the announcement made that the AMA was looking for a new leader?
Someone please refresh my memory, I can't seem to find the posts; When was the announcement made that the AMA was looking for a new leader?
#39
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More information posted on the AMA Web site:
http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutam...minations.aspx
Nominations Due for AMA President, Executive Vice President, and Vice Presidents in Districts III, VII, and XI
Nominations for the offices of president, executive vice president and vice presidents in Districts III, VII, and XI are due at the Headquarters of the Academy of Model Aeronautics by June 16, 2011. Any AMA Open Member may submit a nomination.
A special election for president will run concurrently with the 2011 elections.
You can send nominations to AMA:
Academy of Model Aeronautics
5161 E. Memorial Dr.
Muncie IN 47302
I strongly suggest that all nominations be addressed "Attention Elections" and they be by Certified Mail with a Return Receipt Card.
Any Open class AMA member can submit a Nomination for National Office, or a DVP of his/her district.
http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutam...minations.aspx
Nominations Due for AMA President, Executive Vice President, and Vice Presidents in Districts III, VII, and XI
Nominations for the offices of president, executive vice president and vice presidents in Districts III, VII, and XI are due at the Headquarters of the Academy of Model Aeronautics by June 16, 2011. Any AMA Open Member may submit a nomination.
A special election for president will run concurrently with the 2011 elections.
You can send nominations to AMA:
Academy of Model Aeronautics
5161 E. Memorial Dr.
Muncie IN 47302
I strongly suggest that all nominations be addressed "Attention Elections" and they be by Certified Mail with a Return Receipt Card.
Any Open class AMA member can submit a Nomination for National Office, or a DVP of his/her district.
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ORIGINAL: Silent-AV8R
TO add to my comments above, I declined your offer because I simply do not have the time to devote. In addition, I thought your offer was odd. I will not support anyone whose name ends up on a ballot as the result of some sort of ''deal''. In addition, that offer and my response has nothing to do with the subject of my post or the response to it.
ORIGINAL: Hossfly
Now for all to be aware, I offered a deal to you. I would nominate YOU for both President and Ex. VP if you would nominate me for Ex. VP. Your reply, paraphrased, was that you would not run and if elected you would not serve.
Now I ask you, Bill, if you want to play soldier why are you afraid of the battle?
Now for all to be aware, I offered a deal to you. I would nominate YOU for both President and Ex. VP if you would nominate me for Ex. VP. Your reply, paraphrased, was that you would not run and if elected you would not serve.
Now I ask you, Bill, if you want to play soldier why are you afraid of the battle?
Think as you will, however 2 + 2 always equals 4. Now argue as you wish and say that 2+2 is NOT 4, because you know that 3+1 equals 4.
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ORIGINAL: Silent-AV8R
I pick up the strong smell of paranoid conspiracy theories.
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Be aware and prepared, or pay the price of ignorance.
I pick up the strong smell of paranoid conspiracy theories.
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Be aware and prepared, or pay the price of ignorance.
Bill, those two above statements just don't seem to match very well.
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Yep, I can see it now, the 4 FSDO people in San Diego County are going to have to give up standards enforcement for all the numerous large and small airports and the thousands of commercial, private and military aircraft in San Diego and start putting in hundreds of hours of overtime so they can track down all those renegade CBO violators!
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I heard that the AMA is buying a fleet of "black helicopters" that will enforce the CBO rules and also that each AMA Club will need to have a TSA agent and scanner to clear any CBO pilot before they can access the flight line.............................................. ...........................................
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ORIGINAL: Hossfly
More information posted on the AMA Web site:
http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutam...minations.aspx
Nominations Due for AMA President, Executive Vice President, and Vice Presidents in Districts III, VII, and XI
Nominations for the offices of president, executive vice president and vice presidents in Districts III, VII, and XI are due at the Headquarters of the Academy of Model Aeronautics by June 16, 2011. Any AMA Open Member may submit a nomination.
A special election for president will run concurrently with the 2011 elections.
You can send nominations to AMA:
Academy of Model Aeronautics
5161 E. Memorial Dr.
Muncie IN 47302
I strongly suggest that all nominations be addressed ''Attention Elections'' and they be by Certified Mail with a Return Receipt Card.
Any Open class AMA member can submit a Nomination for National Office, or a DVP of his/her district.
More information posted on the AMA Web site:
http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutam...minations.aspx
Nominations Due for AMA President, Executive Vice President, and Vice Presidents in Districts III, VII, and XI
Nominations for the offices of president, executive vice president and vice presidents in Districts III, VII, and XI are due at the Headquarters of the Academy of Model Aeronautics by June 16, 2011. Any AMA Open Member may submit a nomination.
A special election for president will run concurrently with the 2011 elections.
You can send nominations to AMA:
Academy of Model Aeronautics
5161 E. Memorial Dr.
Muncie IN 47302
I strongly suggest that all nominations be addressed ''Attention Elections'' and they be by Certified Mail with a Return Receipt Card.
Any Open class AMA member can submit a Nomination for National Office, or a DVP of his/her district.
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ORIGINAL: s3nfo
Yep, I can see it now, the 4 FSDO people in San Diego County are going to have to give up standards enforcement for all the numerous large and small airports and the thousands of commercial, private and military aircraft in San Diego and start putting in hundreds of hours of overtime so they can track down all those renegade CBO violators!
Yep, I can see it now, the 4 FSDO people in San Diego County are going to have to give up standards enforcement for all the numerous large and small airports and the thousands of commercial, private and military aircraft in San Diego and start putting in hundreds of hours of overtime so they can track down all those renegade CBO violators!
of course, some goofus will call the police...and waste their time instead. 
Oh yes, they will.
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Smith????hahahahahahahahhahanhaha what a joke
On a different note,
When ya pull up stakes an move to muncie this has to be a well paying position. No wonder everybody wants it. Theres one spot where a lot of yer dues are going.
On a different note,
When ya pull up stakes an move to muncie this has to be a well paying position. No wonder everybody wants it. Theres one spot where a lot of yer dues are going.


