Another Drone Pilot does it Again
06-23-2016, 11:06 AM
#3151
"In 2014, there were four known instances of drones interfering with aerial firefighting operations" http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc...f-firefighters
"FAA probes drone near miss with Reno Firefighting helicopter" http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-cou...ighting-copter
And now this. Five events that interfere with events that put people and millions in property at risk are hardly "one off".
06-23-2016, 11:18 AM
#3152
06-23-2016, 11:21 AM
#3153
Was the pilot in this instance a member of a CBO under self regulation? Could it be a disgruntled individual operating intentionally to cause interference?
06-23-2016, 11:25 AM
#3154
This is hardly a one off event:
"In 2014, there were four known instances of drones interfering with aerial firefighting operations" http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc...f-firefighters
"FAA probes drone near miss with Reno Firefighting helicopter" http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-cou...ighting-copter
And now this. Five events that interfere with events that put people and millions in property at risk are hardly "one off".
"In 2014, there were four known instances of drones interfering with aerial firefighting operations" http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc...f-firefighters
"FAA probes drone near miss with Reno Firefighting helicopter" http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-cou...ighting-copter
And now this. Five events that interfere with events that put people and millions in property at risk are hardly "one off".
06-23-2016, 11:57 AM
#3155
We're talking about specific examples where drones have repeatedly impacted firefighting efforts, in this latest case resulting in evacuations that likely would not have been needed had the firefighting aircraft not been grounded due to drone activity.
06-23-2016, 02:09 PM
#3156
All the other Drone flights that caused air tankers to cease operations happened 2 years ago ... Before the public at large really realized that that flying near natural disasters might interfere with emergency operations. Now we have one indecent with Millions of Quads out there. Even Drone sightings around airports seems to be way way down from just a year ago. Congress can't even figure out what their going to do about Drones and R/C. Till they do I believe that if we stay on the reservation and
.Just fly Like U always did, Keep out of the way, and all will be OK.
.Just fly Like U always did, Keep out of the way, and all will be OK.
06-23-2016, 02:49 PM
#3157
06-23-2016, 03:57 PM
#3158
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This is hardly a one off event:
"In 2014, there were four known instances of drones interfering with aerial firefighting operations" http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc...f-firefighters
"FAA probes drone near miss with Reno Firefighting helicopter" http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-cou...ighting-copter
And now this. Five events that interfere with events that put people and millions in property at risk are hardly "one off".
"In 2014, there were four known instances of drones interfering with aerial firefighting operations" http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc...f-firefighters
"FAA probes drone near miss with Reno Firefighting helicopter" http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-cou...ighting-copter
And now this. Five events that interfere with events that put people and millions in property at risk are hardly "one off".
You have more of a chance causing damage flying your heli in a park as a drone has of hitting a plane.
06-23-2016, 04:07 PM
#3159
Comment made with respect to interfering with wildfire fighting efforts.
Oh, and airliners are a pretty safe bet here in the US. According to USDOT, in 2015, part 121 carriers flew 6,992,575 flights that started and terminated in the US. They carried 638,272,916 passengers. Zero fatalities. In fact, according to NTSB only 58 injuries of all types. So, that's a 0.0000000908 rate for even a bump on the head. Oh, and in 2014, also zero fatal mishaps. Risk of airliners flying over major cities has been, for two years, zero.
Oh, and airliners are a pretty safe bet here in the US. According to USDOT, in 2015, part 121 carriers flew 6,992,575 flights that started and terminated in the US. They carried 638,272,916 passengers. Zero fatalities. In fact, according to NTSB only 58 injuries of all types. So, that's a 0.0000000908 rate for even a bump on the head. Oh, and in 2014, also zero fatal mishaps. Risk of airliners flying over major cities has been, for two years, zero.
06-23-2016, 04:09 PM
#3160
Would two or four off be better? Cherry pick til you're hearts content....here's a stat to work on. Take the number of commercial flights per year and match that up against all of the alleged "sightings" over the past 3 years. What's the percentage?
You have more of a chance causing damage flying your heli in a park as a drone has of hitting a plane.
You have more of a chance causing damage flying your heli in a park as a drone has of hitting a plane.
06-23-2016, 05:55 PM
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06-23-2016, 06:25 PM
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06-23-2016, 11:19 PM
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Comment made with respect to interfering with wildfire fighting efforts.
Oh, and airliners are a pretty safe bet here in the US. According to USDOT, in 2015, part 121 carriers flew 6,992,575 flights that started and terminated in the US. They carried 638,272,916 passengers. Zero fatalities. In fact, according to NTSB only 58 injuries of all types. So, that's a 0.0000000908 rate for even a bump on the head. Oh, and in 2014, also zero fatal mishaps. Risk of airliners flying over major cities has been, for two years, zero.
Oh, and airliners are a pretty safe bet here in the US. According to USDOT, in 2015, part 121 carriers flew 6,992,575 flights that started and terminated in the US. They carried 638,272,916 passengers. Zero fatalities. In fact, according to NTSB only 58 injuries of all types. So, that's a 0.0000000908 rate for even a bump on the head. Oh, and in 2014, also zero fatal mishaps. Risk of airliners flying over major cities has been, for two years, zero.
06-23-2016, 11:29 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong ... but stats show there's on average a 95% survival rate when an AIRLINER HITS THE GROUND AT DAMN NEAR MACH....who believes this dribble ??
This shi't never left he ground... worst "air" disaster known to man...run way incursion shi't... tell me again how a 3 or 4 b quad can cause such havic...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sBQXS9Fn-g
06-23-2016, 11:42 PM
#3166
Comment made with respect to interfering with wildfire fighting efforts.
Oh, and airliners are a pretty safe bet here in the US. According to USDOT, in 2015, part 121 carriers flew 6,992,575 flights that started and terminated in the US. They carried 638,272,916 passengers. Zero fatalities. In fact, according to NTSB only 58 injuries of all types. So, that's a 0.0000000908 rate for even a bump on the head. Oh, and in 2014, also zero fatal mishaps. Risk of airliners flying over major cities has been, for two years, zero.
Is the comment above with respect to firefighting efforts? It's interesting how you used such a small dataset in your statistics. A quick search shows there have been several firefighting incidents not involving sUAS interference.
http://wildfiretoday.com/2012/07/18/...crash-of-2002/
http://www.firefighternation.com/art...irtanker-crash
Oh, and airliners are a pretty safe bet here in the US. According to USDOT, in 2015, part 121 carriers flew 6,992,575 flights that started and terminated in the US. They carried 638,272,916 passengers. Zero fatalities. In fact, according to NTSB only 58 injuries of all types. So, that's a 0.0000000908 rate for even a bump on the head. Oh, and in 2014, also zero fatal mishaps. Risk of airliners flying over major cities has been, for two years, zero.
Is the comment above with respect to firefighting efforts? It's interesting how you used such a small dataset in your statistics. A quick search shows there have been several firefighting incidents not involving sUAS interference.
http://wildfiretoday.com/2012/07/18/...crash-of-2002/
http://www.firefighternation.com/art...irtanker-crash
06-24-2016, 02:25 AM
#3167
A quick search shows there have been several firefighting incidents not involving sUAS interference.
http://wildfiretoday.com/2012/07/18/...crash-of-2002/
http://www.firefighternation.com/art...irtanker-crash
http://wildfiretoday.com/2012/07/18/...crash-of-2002/
http://www.firefighternation.com/art...irtanker-crash
06-24-2016, 02:36 AM
#3168
Correct me if I'm wrong ... but stats show there's on average a 95% survival rate when an AIRLINER HITS THE GROUND AT DAMN NEAR MACH....who believes this dribble ??
This shi't never left he ground... worst "air" disaster known to man...run way incursion shi't... tell me again how a 3 or 4 b quad can cause such havic...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sBQXS9Fn-g
This shi't never left he ground... worst "air" disaster known to man...run way incursion shi't... tell me again how a 3 or 4 b quad can cause such havic...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sBQXS9Fn-g
Look it up for yourself:
T-100 dataset for number of flights and passengers can be found here:
http://www.transtats.bts.gov/Tables....Air%20Carriers
Number of injuries can be found here:
http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/index.aspx
All fields default setting except these -
Event Start Date:1/1/2015
Event End Date: 12/31/2015
Country: United States
Operation: Part 121: Air Carrier
06-24-2016, 03:45 AM
#3169
It's hazardous enough already, which is why drones interfering with these operations puts all sorts of people at risk. Airborne tankers are sometimes the only way to control a fast moving fire in remote areas. Having operations shut down due to some idiot flying a sUAS can quite easily have grave consequences.
06-24-2016, 03:54 AM
#3170
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It's hazardous enough already, which is why drones interfering with these operations puts all sorts of people at risk. Airborne tankers are sometimes the only way to control a fast moving fire in remote areas. Having operations shut down due to some idiot flying a sUAS can quite easily have grave consequences.
So how about some relative stats. How many flights this year have involved firefighting stateside? Thousands and thousands no? How many have involved drones? A few? I left my abacus at home so can't crunch the digits, but gotta imagine the # is infinitesimally small.
If there was actually an incursion and a person was caught, they need to be dealt with as harshly as possible, made an example of, and have that publicized as much as possible. That's something I'd have no problem telling to the 'guvna
06-24-2016, 04:13 AM
#3171
Agree that it's very hazardous. But once again you use almost one off situations to over dramatisize something...and end with "ya tell that to the firefighters...or insert someone else here..".
So how about some relative stats. How many flights this year have involved firefighting stateside? Thousands and thousands no? How many have involved drones? A few? I left my abacus at home so can't crunch the digits, but gotta imagine the # is infinitesimally small.
If there was actually an incursion and a person was caught, they need to be dealt with as harshly as possible, made an example of, and have that publicized as much as possible. That's something I'd have no problem telling to the 'guvna
So how about some relative stats. How many flights this year have involved firefighting stateside? Thousands and thousands no? How many have involved drones? A few? I left my abacus at home so can't crunch the digits, but gotta imagine the # is infinitesimally small.
If there was actually an incursion and a person was caught, they need to be dealt with as harshly as possible, made an example of, and have that publicized as much as possible. That's something I'd have no problem telling to the 'guvna
http://www.tmz.com/2016/06/19/johnny...lice-premiere/
06-24-2016, 11:59 AM
#3172
Agree that it's very hazardous. But once again you use almost one off situations to over dramatisize something...and end with "ya tell that to the firefighters...or insert someone else here..".
So how about some relative stats. How many flights this year have involved firefighting stateside? Thousands and thousands no? How many have involved drones? A few? I left my abacus at home so can't crunch the digits, but gotta imagine the # is infinitesimally small.
If there was actually an incursion and a person was caught, they need to be dealt with as harshly as possible, made an example of, and have that publicized as much as possible. That's something I'd have no problem telling to the 'guvna
So how about some relative stats. How many flights this year have involved firefighting stateside? Thousands and thousands no? How many have involved drones? A few? I left my abacus at home so can't crunch the digits, but gotta imagine the # is infinitesimally small.
If there was actually an incursion and a person was caught, they need to be dealt with as harshly as possible, made an example of, and have that publicized as much as possible. That's something I'd have no problem telling to the 'guvna
06-24-2016, 12:01 PM
#3173
06-24-2016, 03:24 PM
#3174
Originally Posted by Chris P. Bacon 
No one has said it isn't a serious issue, but the sensationalism some folks lavish in over isolated incidents is overwhelming.