N410DC

I am afraid you might be correct. That said, if they charge this guy, many people are going to speak out, unless they immediately issue a warrant for the guy who crashed the drone in January.

That said, intent is an important legal consideration. If they have evidence that the guy in today's incident deliberately flew over the White House fence, he may be more likely to face charges. The other guy was a long way away from the White House, and evidently had no intention of flying his Phantom over Obama's back yard.

HoundDog

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Hope U R right. We'll see. U just can't count on the FEDs doing what we receive to be right and fair. alla FAA's Interpretation of #336.

HoundDog

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Goes with out saying: "U Just can't fix STUPID".

TimJ

I heard radio reports earlier today claim that it was a Model Airplane and not a drone or multi-rotor........

philakapd

It has been reported as a Parrot AR. Controlled by a tablet.

The offender was issued a misdemeanor citation. The news did not report what the citation was for or which authority is responsible for issuing the citation.

It is not legal to fly a UAV in Washington D.C.

init4fun

The news in my area last night showed a red and black quad , kinda small looking , and they didn't show what was controlling it ...

Sport_Pilot

In the city yes, but in urban areas you are allowed to fire your gun at model airplanes flying over your property and the model airplane pilot can be taken in for trespassing. Not that charges of trespassing are often brought.

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HoundDog

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DP Again Sorry:

littlecrankshaf

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Yep...that should send chills down anyone's spine...that is if they have a spine...scares me just looking at the pictures! The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!

N410DC

I think he was lucky to get away with a misdemeanor citation. I am sure there are a least a few felonies they could have charged him with, if they wanted to make an example.

HoundDog

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LTL CS: , Sky fall'n an all. Sur's bees Hope's U's gots ya Hard hats on. Woodn't want's nuffen hitt'n yas Knogg'n or nuttn likks that there ya kNos. Hoops ya hav'en a good day thre, That's were evers HERE isn.

HoundDog

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LTL CS: , Sky fall'n an all. Sur's bees Hope'n U's gots ya Hard hats on. Woodn't want's nuffen hitt'n yas Knogg'n or nuttn likks that there ya kNos. Hoops ya hav'en a good day thre, That's were evers HERE isn.

HoundDog

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Nice to see a couple of strangers here ... It'all a barrel of laughs here. Well Sometimes.
There are currently 18 users browsing this thread. (13 members and 5 guests)

• HoundDog,
• LarsL,
• huck328,
• ramboamt,
• cookta,
• JohnShe,
• bradpaul,
• Prop_Washer2,
• planeptr,
• advance,
• N410DC,
• falconco

Seems that there 6 Missing what happened? OH WELL no matter.

N410DC

I have here in my hand a list of 12 names, that were made known to the Federal Aviation Administration as being operators of unmanned aerial systems, in the federal airspace of the United States.

Thanks a lot for the publicity, HoundDog!

HoundDog

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N410DC: If I were U I wouldn't worry about the FEDs having U on a list of any kind.
Cartersville, GA is so fare out in the Boondocks that it would take the FEDs
a month of Sundays to even find it.I'd be more worried that they would find
some of your Post's here on RCU and them taking offense. But U are Quite
Welcome, Just the same LOL

FLAPHappy

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Sport.where did you see that information?

Sport_Pilot

In trespassing laws, they vary. Texas evens allows you to shoot the trespasser. If they have no trouble with shooting a person, I am sure they have no trouble with UAV's. Georgia says you must get a licensed tow company to have trespassing vehicles towed off your property and does not allow shooting a person unless you are protecting your life.

Chad Veich

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From a full size aircraft forum. This is why I think quadcopters are the greatest risk to our hobby/sport to have come along thus far.

http://warbirdinformationexchange.or...hp?f=3&t=55888

combatpigg

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Hmmm....I'll be sure to pay more attention to your "INTEL" when the need arises from now on.

Sport_Pilot

Have you fowarded that to the FAA? Only legal if permission is made by the airport, which I doubt. Not sure of FAA's position of model aircraft in clouds, but would suspect it will soon be illegal to be closer than 500 foot from a cloud when over 400 feet altitude.

HoundDog

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A lot depends on the class of air space U are in, Altitude U are at, and day or night.
It Looks like the weather was CAVU Clear And Visibility Unlimited. Ther were certinally many FAR's Safety Code and AMA rules broken here.

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§ 91.155 Basic VFR weather minimums. (a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section and § 91.157, no person may operate an aircraft under VFR when the flight visibility is less, or at a distance from clouds that is less, than that prescribed for the corresponding altitude and class of airspace in the following table:

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[TD]3 statute miles[/TD]
[TD]500 feet below.1,000 feet above. 2,000 feet horizontal.[/TD]
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[TD]3 statute miles[/TD]
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[TD]Less than 10,000 feet MSL[/TD]
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[TD]At or above 10,000 feet MSL[/TD]
[TD]5 statute miles[/TD]
[TD]1,000 feet below.1,000 feet above. 1 statute mile horizontal.[/TD]
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[TD]1,200 feet or less above the surface (regardless of MSL altitude)[/TD]
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[TD]Day, except as provided in § 91.155(b)[/TD]
[TD]1 statute mile[/TD]
[TD]Clear of clouds.[/TD]
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[TD]Night, except as provided in § 91.155(b)[/TD]
[TD]3 statute miles[/TD]
[TD]500 feet below.1,000 feet above. 2,000 feet horizontal.[/TD]
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[TD]More than 1,200 feet above the surface but less than 10,000 feet MSL[/TD]
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[TD]More than 1,200 feet above the surface and at or above 10,000 feet MSL[/TD]
[TD]5 statute miles[/TD]
[TD]1,000 feet below.1,000 feet above. 1 statute mile horizontal.[/TD]
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(b) Class G Airspace. Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph (a) of this section, the following operations may be conducted in Class G airspace below 1,200 feet above the surface:

Sport_Pilot

Part 91 doesn't really apply to model airplanes. It only apply's to airplanes with people on board, as mentioned in the recent NPRM. But that NPRM does not include model aircraft. However, I think it can be classified as endangerment to the NAS by impeding the FPV pilot's capability to see and avoid. Then again perhaps the model airplane can be considered a UAV under the proposed NPRM because it was operated in FPV mode violating the AMA's safety code.

FLAPHappy

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FPV-UAV operators ALWAYS need a spotter, therefore he could not "see and avoid" a conflict without a spotter as required.Yes violated numerous rules, UAV and FPV per AMA and the FAA.

Sport_Pilot

I don't think we know he did not have a spotter, or did I miss something? Good assumption though.