Are you ready to register your aircraft?
12-22-2015, 03:19 PM
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Although I've disagreed at time with his positions, his getting out (or not) isn't really relative to his ability to make comments pro or con regarding the FAA or AMA. Although he has indicated he was leaving the AMA as there was no need for it where he is living, he is still a member. For the record every org needs what some would be considered to be a gadfly (not saying franklin is, just saying in general). Orgs get myopic and might suffer from tunnel vision unless someone has the brass ones every now and then to speak there mind, even it it makes others feel uncomfortable. I used to shrink in the chair and go uh oh, here it comes, when one of the more vocal people in our club used to ask for a chance to speak or question the board. Sometimes it was like oh god, did he just go there? But ya...he did, and he needed to because some of us didn't know we should, or could. Lot's has been said of the AMA over the past two years, good and bad. I doubt the EC spends time here reading what is written, it's typically pretty anti-AMA in general, but through it all might be some good suggestions. They did the survey a while back and hopefully glean some useful information from that as well. I trust that the EC has best intentions for the membership, but if they never seek membership feedback, I think that's a missed opportunity.
12-22-2015, 03:20 PM
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The same could be said for auto insurance, health insurance, and homeowner's/renters insurance? Have you filed a claim with those every two years or canceled them as well?
12-22-2015, 03:23 PM
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Thank you. For the record, I've been a member of AMA for a while. I was a member of a local club, but after two years not flying at the club field despite a membership fee that exceeded the AMA annual dues (by a lot), I decided to let the club membership lapse. Since I own a home of my own, the AMA insurance is secondary anyway. I committed to remain an AMA member through 2016. If I go through another year w/o needing the membership to fly what I want to fly, then I'd rather put that $200 a year (AMA + club dues) into airplanes, helicopters, batteries, or other stuff. It's a matter of value for my dollar.
12-22-2015, 03:35 PM
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If you are flying for commercial purposes you will be registering the aircraft.
If you fly for hobby, you are registering yourself. Then applying the number you receive to all of your Drones/quads/helis/airplanes/dog houses, what ever you've decide to make fly that is heavier than 0.55lbs
12-22-2015, 03:53 PM
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Thank you. For the record, I've been a member of AMA for a while. I was a member of a local club, but after two years not flying at the club field despite a membership fee that exceeded the AMA annual dues (by a lot), I decided to let the club membership lapse. Since I own a home of my own, the AMA insurance is secondary anyway. I committed to remain an AMA member through 2016. If I go through another year w/o needing the membership to fly what I want to fly, then I'd rather put that $200 a year (AMA + club dues) into airplanes, helicopters, batteries, or other stuff. It's a matter of value for my dollar.
12-22-2015, 03:53 PM
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Since you may have missed it. Here is what a Registration Certificate looks like. You are registering yourself. I've changed the name and number.
If you are flying for commercial purposes you will be registering the aircraft.
If you fly for hobby, you are registering yourself. Then applying the number you receive to all of your Drones/quads/helis/airplanes/dog houses, what ever you've decide to make fly that is heavier than 0.55lbs
If you are flying for commercial purposes you will be registering the aircraft.
If you fly for hobby, you are registering yourself. Then applying the number you receive to all of your Drones/quads/helis/airplanes/dog houses, what ever you've decide to make fly that is heavier than 0.55lbs
12-22-2015, 03:58 PM
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Charlie Is that a girls name? If yes I'm a doctor. LOL
This is getting completely RE=DUC-U=LUS I just blue another 45 Unanswered URL forums from RCU on this stupid crap .... Cold and nasty so didn't fly but I've missed 3 of my 5 naps already today. Can't miss any more. Night All To OLD to keep Up ... Ain't U happy? LOL
This is getting completely RE=DUC-U=LUS I just blue another 45 Unanswered URL forums from RCU on this stupid crap .... Cold and nasty so didn't fly but I've missed 3 of my 5 naps already today. Can't miss any more. Night All To OLD to keep Up ... Ain't U happy? LOL
12-22-2015, 04:32 PM
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I am trying to figure out who is going to enforce this ruling.Do the local police have any right to check registration or is it to be regulated by the FAA enforcement rep. Can a Local cop demand to see you registration or have the right to take your aircraft if you don't have it on the aircraft.The local cops can't enforce the immigration laws so can you tell them to go away or ask them to get an FAA agent. Just asking, I went ahead and registered but would like to know who has the athority.
12-22-2015, 04:42 PM
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I am trying to figure out who is going to enforce this ruling.Do the local police have any right to check registration or is it to be regulated by the FAA enforcement rep. Can a Local cop demand to see you registration or have the right to take your aircraft if you don't have it on the aircraft.The local cops can't enforce the immigration laws so can you tell them to go away or ask them to get an FAA agent. Just asking, I went ahead and registered but would like to know who has the athority.
http://www.faa.gov/uas/law_enforceme...ement-FAQs.pdf
Q: Must I cooperate with any Federal, State or local law enforcement officer if asked to provideproof of registration?
A: Yes, a Certificate of Aircraft Registration must be carried by the operator of the UAS and made available to law enforcement and/or the FAA upon request. If you are asked to show your certificate of registration, you can show it electronically, you do not need to print the certificate.
and this is the guidance material for Law Enforcement Officers.
http://www.faa.gov/uas/law_enforceme...dance_card.pdf
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12-22-2015, 04:43 PM
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I am trying to figure out who is going to enforce this ruling.Do the local police have any right to check registration or is it to be regulated by the FAA enforcement rep. Can a Local cop demand to see you registration or have the right to take your aircraft if you don't have it on the aircraft.The local cops can't enforce the immigration laws so can you tell them to go away or ask them to get an FAA agent. Just asking, I went ahead and registered but would like to know who has the athority.
12-22-2015, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzby 
I am trying to figure out who is going to enforce this ruling.Do the local police have any right to check registration or is it to be regulated by the FAA enforcement rep. Can a Local cop demand to see you registration or have the right to take your aircraft if you don't have it on the aircraft.The local cops can't enforce the immigration laws so can you tell them to go away or ask them to get an FAA agent. Just asking, I went ahead and registered but would like to know who has the athority.
[QUOTE=Rob2160;12147388]More info here but yes Police do have the right to check your registration.
http://www.faa.gov/uas/law_enforceme...ement-FAQs.pdf
Q: Must I cooperate with any Federal, State or local law enforcement officer if asked to provideproof of registration?
A: Yes, a Certificate of Aircraft Registration must be carried by the operator of the UAS and made available to law enforcement and/or the FAA upon request. If you are asked to show your certificate of registration, you can show it electronically, you do not need to print the certificate.
and this this is the guidance material for Law Enforcement Officers.
http://www.faa.gov/uas/law_enforceme...dance_card.pdf[
/QUOTE]
What's so tuff about not understanding that U must register to fly any R/C toy in the NAS or go to jail Sounds simple to me. U do have your AMA info in all your R/C TOYS don't U?
12-22-2015, 04:57 PM
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It's a $27,000 dollar fine plus jail time for not registering. But I guess your way could work too. LOL Then people will start getting their asses kicked for ratting, much like the elementary school play ground.
12-22-2015, 06:09 PM
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Auto insurance required by law, health insurance required by law, homeowner's required by mortgage contract. Big difference.
12-22-2015, 06:13 PM
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I get more value out of batteries, kits, and equipment than I do out of a mediocre magazine and insurance that kicks in after my own. Unless I need the AMA membership to fly at all, which I haven't for over two years now, then it seems my money is better spent on the former.
12-22-2015, 06:15 PM
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Yep. I have no problem if people see more value in AMA than I do and vote differently with their dollars. Like I said, I committed to another year (2016), I'll decide then.
12-22-2015, 06:24 PM
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Gotcha.
I get more value out of batteries, kits, and equipment than I do out of a mediocre magazine and insurance that kicks in after my own. Unless I need the AMA membership to fly at all, which I haven't for over two years now, then it seems my money is better spent on the former.
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12-22-2015, 07:40 PM
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Well, this registration is not reasonable as it relates to keeping the NAS safe. Reasonable and easy as far as taking money from responsible people and adding an extra step to fly a toy, then yes. IMO the FAA just fumbled the ball, on the goal line, with 5 seconds to go in the Super Bowl to lose the game with this registration thing.
To be clear, I have zero problem with the FAA keeping the NAS and full scale aircraft safe. That's great! I want the NAS and full scale aircraft to be safe! Registration accomplishes none of that, and that is my problem with the whole thing.
To be clear, I have zero problem with the FAA keeping the NAS and full scale aircraft safe. That's great! I want the NAS and full scale aircraft to be safe! Registration accomplishes none of that, and that is my problem with the whole thing.
12-22-2015, 07:40 PM
#3144
You have no idea. I am currently flying kit built helis (450, 500, & 600 sizes), a scratch built pylon racer, and a .15 size builders kit old school pattern plane.
12-22-2015, 08:08 PM
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12-22-2015, 08:17 PM
#3146
I get more value out of batteries, kits, and equipment than I do out of a mediocre magazine and insurance that kicks in after my own. Unless I need the AMA membership to fly at all, which I haven't for over two years now, then it seems my money is better spent on the former.
12-22-2015, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HoundDog Just offer a $1000 reward for info leading to arrest and conviction for flying anything R/C with out your Registration simple ....
12-22-2015, 09:28 PM
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Here are the roles of the FAA.
The FAA's roles include:
- Regulating U.S. commercial space transportation
- Regulating air navigation facilities' geometric and flight inspection standards
- Encouraging and developing civil aeronautics, including new aviation technology
- Issuing, suspending, or revoking pilot certificates
- Regulating civil aviation to promote safety, especially through local offices called Flight Standards District Offices
- Developing and operating a system of air traffic control and navigation for both civil and military aircraft
- Researching and developing the National Airspace System and civil aeronautics
- Developing and carrying out programs to control aircraft noise and other environmental effects of civil aviation
12-22-2015, 09:53 PM
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Since you may have missed it. Here is what a Registration Certificate looks like. You are registering yourself. I've changed the name and number.
If you are flying for commercial purposes you will be registering the aircraft.
If you fly for hobby, you are registering yourself. Then applying the number you receive to all of your Drones/quads/helis/airplanes/dog houses, what ever you've decide to make fly that is heavier than 0.55lbs
If you are flying for commercial purposes you will be registering the aircraft.
If you fly for hobby, you are registering yourself. Then applying the number you receive to all of your Drones/quads/helis/airplanes/dog houses, what ever you've decide to make fly that is heavier than 0.55lbs
12-22-2015, 10:17 PM
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I get more value out of batteries, kits, and equipment than I do out of a mediocre magazine and insurance that kicks in after my own. Unless I need the AMA membership to fly at all, which I haven't for over two years now, then it seems my money is better spent on the former.
I suppose it gives them a "creative outlet" that you just can't get from flying ARFs all day.