Are you ready to register your aircraft?
#3702
I asked AMA directly if they viewed you have to be a member to operate above 400' AGL. They responded no, but just today they say they're working with the FAA to get language on the FAA site that if you're an AMA member, you can go above 400. So they're working to actually make membership mandatory.
I also asked them about the >=55lb thing. They said that you must be a member for them to certify the aircraft per PL112-95 section 336 (a)(3). So for those, you absolutely have to be a member.
I have a problem with a private dues collecting organization using the law to compel me to pay them money to exercise a right in the public airspace.
I also asked them about the >=55lb thing. They said that you must be a member for them to certify the aircraft per PL112-95 section 336 (a)(3). So for those, you absolutely have to be a member.
I have a problem with a private dues collecting organization using the law to compel me to pay them money to exercise a right in the public airspace.
#3704
Banned
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Exactly as it should be. As much as I want to freedom to do what I want where I want how I want, there are other considerations to be dealt with. I am more frightened at the thought of some of the big retailers scrambling to get their birds in the air than I am a fellow AMA member doing something. Flying in the NAS isn't any different than driving on the roads...it is a privilege, not some absolute right. It sucks that our hobby got caught up in this mess, but there were far more reaching issues than just us.
#3705
Mr. Gibson said twice "privilege" with respect to flying in the NAS. The only "rights" are those established in the constitution. Show us where it says anything about flying model airplanes in the Constitution.
#3706
Exactly as it should be. As much as I want to freedom to do what I want where I want how I want, there are other considerations to be dealt with. I am more frightened at the thought of some of the big retailers scrambling to get their birds in the air than I am a fellow AMA member doing something. Flying in the NAS isn't any different than driving on the roads...it is a privilege, not some absolute right. It sucks that our hobby got caught up in this mess, but there were far more reaching issues than just us.
#3707
It appears Sporty is having a tough day getting his facts straight.
#3709
It's already started in the other thread.
#3710
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I'll probably be flamed for saying this but here it goes. This argument is a fallacy, and I've heard it used a lot especially dealing with privacy, but if one wasn't asleep in their civics class they would have read the 9th Amendment and, to a lesser degree, the 10th amendment telling us that there are more rights than those enumerated in the Constitution and who has them.
If you may do something legally without government interference it may be construed as a right. Once you have to pay for a license to do it makes it a privilege.
Here they are:
[h=2]Amendment IX[/h][h=2]Rights retained by the People
The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
[/h][h=2]Amendment X[/h][h=2]States' rights
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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If you may do something legally without government interference it may be construed as a right. Once you have to pay for a license to do it makes it a privilege.
Here they are:
[h=2]Amendment IX[/h][h=2]Rights retained by the People
The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
[/h][h=2]Amendment X[/h][h=2]States' rights
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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#3711
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#3712
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Count Down timer Till FAA Mandatory Registration:
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#3713
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U2 sport ....Count Down timer Till FAA Mandatory Registration:
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#3714
One item I've had some questions about and hasn't really been addressed anywhere concerns the longevity of the FAA registration number. I've seen the FAA articles where they state their thinking (??) that most sUAS are very short-lived, few lasting more than a year. Most of my planes are in the 35-45 yr old bracket (all still flying) and I was wondering about renewing in 3 years - will we keep the same number or get a new one. Got the answer today. Entire e-mail below:
Message body
Thank you for your inquiry. You will be able to keep the same number.
Regards,
Thea Dickerman
FAA UAS Integration Office
www.faa.gov/uas
________________________________________
From: [email protected] [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 11:44 AM
To: 9-AFS-UAS-Inquiries (FAA)
Subject: Message from www.faa.gov: [email protected]
This email was sent through the Federal Aviation Administration's public website. You have been contacted via an email link on the following page: http://www.faa.gov/uas/contacts/
Message:
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I understand about the FAA registration of sUAS flyers, and am already registered - no problem. In 3 years, when I have to renew my registration, will I keep the same number or will a new one be issued. My concern is placing my number on all my model aircraft - will I have to take the old one off and apply a new one every 3 years?
Thanks.
- [email protected]
- Today at 12:05 PM
Message body
Thank you for your inquiry. You will be able to keep the same number.
Regards,
Thea Dickerman
FAA UAS Integration Office
www.faa.gov/uas
________________________________________
From: [email protected] [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 11:44 AM
To: 9-AFS-UAS-Inquiries (FAA)
Subject: Message from www.faa.gov: [email protected]
This email was sent through the Federal Aviation Administration's public website. You have been contacted via an email link on the following page: http://www.faa.gov/uas/contacts/
Message:
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I understand about the FAA registration of sUAS flyers, and am already registered - no problem. In 3 years, when I have to renew my registration, will I keep the same number or will a new one be issued. My concern is placing my number on all my model aircraft - will I have to take the old one off and apply a new one every 3 years?
Thanks.
#3715
I'm sure you will keep the same number.
One item I've had some questions about and hasn't really been addressed anywhere concerns the longevity of the FAA registration number. I've seen the FAA articles where they state their thinking (??) that most sUAS are very short-lived, few lasting more than a year. Most of my planes are in the 35-45 yr old bracket (all still flying) and I was wondering about renewing in 3 years - will we keep the same number or get a new one. Got the answer today. Entire e-mail below:
Message body
Thank you for your inquiry. You will be able to keep the same number.
Regards,
Thea Dickerman
FAA UAS Integration Office
www.faa.gov/uas
________________________________________
From: [email protected] [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 11:44 AM
To: 9-AFS-UAS-Inquiries (FAA)
Subject: Message from www.faa.gov: [email protected]
This email was sent through the Federal Aviation Administration's public website. You have been contacted via an email link on the following page: http://www.faa.gov/uas/contacts/
Message:
----------------------
I understand about the FAA registration of sUAS flyers, and am already registered - no problem. In 3 years, when I have to renew my registration, will I keep the same number or will a new one be issued. My concern is placing my number on all my model aircraft - will I have to take the old one off and apply a new one every 3 years?
Thanks.
- [email protected]
- Today at 12:05 PM
Message body
Thank you for your inquiry. You will be able to keep the same number.
Regards,
Thea Dickerman
FAA UAS Integration Office
www.faa.gov/uas
________________________________________
From: [email protected] [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 11:44 AM
To: 9-AFS-UAS-Inquiries (FAA)
Subject: Message from www.faa.gov: [email protected]
This email was sent through the Federal Aviation Administration's public website. You have been contacted via an email link on the following page: http://www.faa.gov/uas/contacts/
Message:
----------------------
I understand about the FAA registration of sUAS flyers, and am already registered - no problem. In 3 years, when I have to renew my registration, will I keep the same number or will a new one be issued. My concern is placing my number on all my model aircraft - will I have to take the old one off and apply a new one every 3 years?
Thanks.
#3716
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OK what one of U extremely intelligent guys can explain how or if a, Canadian here for 6 months, and is flying right now under the Intro Pilot program.. Club Plane, not his or mine. Do I put my number in the plane or what ... Any guesses out there.
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Last edited by HoundDog; 01-11-2016 at 09:12 PM.
#3717
Make him get a number and use his number. Not necessarily the right thing to do, but this place will go to hell if you end up in jail.
#3718
#3719
It doesn't have to say flying model airplanes is a right. The ninth amendment says that any rights not mentioned in the constitution shall not be disparaged and shall retained to the people. So this is a right per the constitution.
#3720
I'll probably be flamed for saying this but here it goes. This argument is a fallacy, and I've heard it used a lot especially dealing with privacy, but if one wasn't asleep in their civics class they would have read the 9th Amendment and, to a lesser degree, the 10th amendment telling us that there are more rights than those enumerated in the Constitution and who has them.
If you may do something legally without government interference it may be construed as a right. Once you have to pay for a license to do it makes it a privilege.
Here they are:
Amendment IX
Rights retained by the People
The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
States' rights
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
If you may do something legally without government interference it may be construed as a right. Once you have to pay for a license to do it makes it a privilege.
Here they are:
Amendment IX
Rights retained by the People
The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
States' rights
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
#3722
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Originally Posted by skylark-flier
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I understand about the FAA registration of sUAS flyers, and am already registered - no problem. In 3 years, when I have to renew my registration, will I keep the same number or will a new one be issued. My concern is placing my number on all my model aircraft - will I have to take the old one off and apply a new one every 3 years?
Thank
U have airplanes that last 3 years and U really fly them ... amazing? We have several club members that kill several planes a month. Yesterday this Canadian (That has already Killed 4 or 5 this season) came out to the field with a brand new plane with a 1.60 + 4 stroke . He had another guy maiden it and we even didn't want to fly it. If he can get them started he's got a 50 50 chance of taking it home in the same condition he brought it. Never is with a garbage bak close.
Message:
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I understand about the FAA registration of sUAS flyers, and am already registered - no problem. In 3 years, when I have to renew my registration, will I keep the same number or will a new one be issued. My concern is placing my number on all my model aircraft - will I have to take the old one off and apply a new one every 3 years?
Thank
U have airplanes that last 3 years and U really fly them ... amazing? We have several club members that kill several planes a month. Yesterday this Canadian (That has already Killed 4 or 5 this season) came out to the field with a brand new plane with a 1.60 + 4 stroke . He had another guy maiden it and we even didn't want to fly it. If he can get them started he's got a 50 50 chance of taking it home in the same condition he brought it. Never is with a garbage bak close.
#3723
#3724
It's not always Uncle Sam that's the problem. You'd be amazed how many people cannot keep track of basic information like their phone number, mailing address, bank account numbers, passwords, etc. Changing that number every X years would be a recipe for disaster. Based on the size of the registration number and the number/type of digits used they won't be running out of numbers anytime soon.
#3725