Are you ready to register your aircraft?
12-15-2015, 06:22 AM
#2451
At our club we have a safety officer as required by the AMA and we follow the AMA safety code as the members agreed to when they singed their AMA membership application. At our club the members don't decide whether or not they're going to follow the safety code.
12-15-2015, 06:34 AM
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So congress passes legislation that prevents regulation and the FAA/DOT ignores it. That is the AMA's fault? The AMA should sue to have this whole thing tossed and should sue for damages as well. I know it is not probable, but maybe name the individuals involved, not just the agency should be named in the lawsuit.
BTW- while they are telling you that you are registering your planes, you are just giving them information about yourself. This way, in the near future, when they require a pilot license of some sort they have you by the short hairs already.
Don't kid yourselves and think this is just for safety. This is a power play to circumvent congress.
BTW- while they are telling you that you are registering your planes, you are just giving them information about yourself. This way, in the near future, when they require a pilot license of some sort they have you by the short hairs already.
Don't kid yourselves and think this is just for safety. This is a power play to circumvent congress.
12-15-2015, 06:35 AM
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Thanks Again For Your Input
Mike.
12-15-2015, 06:44 AM
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So congress passes legislation that prevents regulation and the FAA/DOT ignores it. That is the AMA's fault? The AMA should sue to have this whole thing tossed and should sue for damages as well. I know it is not probable, but maybe name the individuals involved, not just the agency should be named in the lawsuit.
BTW- while they are telling you that you are registering your planes, you are just giving them information about yourself. This way, in the near future, when they require a pilot license of some sort they have you by the short hairs already.
Don't kid yourselves and think this is just for safety. This is a power play to circumvent congress.
BTW- while they are telling you that you are registering your planes, you are just giving them information about yourself. This way, in the near future, when they require a pilot license of some sort they have you by the short hairs already.
Don't kid yourselves and think this is just for safety. This is a power play to circumvent congress.
12-15-2015, 06:47 AM
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12-15-2015, 07:02 AM
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If you are flying at your clubs field which is an AMA Chartered club you will likely have to show proof of registration along with your renewed AMA.
Just because I am ready to register my aircraft doesn't mean this fight is over. I will continue to argue for the separation of drones and model aircraft, because it is what I believe. Dammitt.
Just because I am ready to register my aircraft doesn't mean this fight is over. I will continue to argue for the separation of drones and model aircraft, because it is what I believe. Dammitt.
The FAA, on the other hand, is threatening us with some pretty hefty penalties.
I am pretty sure the registration requirements only pertain to aircraft that are remotely controlled. I suppose the FAA might claim that rockets that have R/C capability, and that weigh >250g must be registered, though the vast majority of rockets out there do not meet these parameters.
And make sure they don't go over 400 ft.? Only A size motors?Last edited by N410DC; 12-15-2015 at 07:06 AM.
12-15-2015, 07:55 AM
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12-15-2015, 07:58 AM
#2461
So far, I have seen nothing to indicate that the AMA will require its members to register their aircraft with the FAA. The Safety Code certainly has not been updated to include this mandate. Given the fact that the AMA is publicly opposing the FAA's decision, and declaring the FAA"s action to be in violation of a Congressional mandate, I doubt they will require us to register with the FAA in the foreseeable future.
The FAA, on the other hand, is threatening us with some pretty hefty penalties.
I am pretty sure the registration requirements only pertain to aircraft that are remotely controlled. I suppose the FAA might claim that rockets that have R/C capability, and that weigh >250g must be registered, though the vast majority of rockets out there do not meet these parameters.
The FAA, on the other hand, is threatening us with some pretty hefty penalties.
I am pretty sure the registration requirements only pertain to aircraft that are remotely controlled. I suppose the FAA might claim that rockets that have R/C capability, and that weigh >250g must be registered, though the vast majority of rockets out there do not meet these parameters.
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12-15-2015, 08:02 AM
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So congress passes legislation that prevents regulation and the FAA/DOT ignores it. That is the AMA's fault? The AMA should sue to have this whole thing tossed and should sue for damages as well. I know it is not probable, but maybe name the individuals involved, not just the agency should be named in the lawsuit.
BTW- while they are telling you that you are registering your planes, you are just giving them information about yourself. This way, in the near future, when they require a pilot license of some sort they have you by the short hairs already.
Don't kid yourselves and think this is just for safety. This is a power play to circumvent congress.
BTW- while they are telling you that you are registering your planes, you are just giving them information about yourself. This way, in the near future, when they require a pilot license of some sort they have you by the short hairs already.
Don't kid yourselves and think this is just for safety. This is a power play to circumvent congress.
12-15-2015, 08:08 AM
#2463
So congress passes legislation that prevents regulation and the FAA/DOT ignores it. That is the AMA's fault? The AMA should sue to have this whole thing tossed and should sue for damages as well. I know it is not probable, but maybe name the individuals involved, not just the agency should be named in the lawsuit.
BTW- while they are telling you that you are registering your planes, you are just giving them information about yourself. This way, in the near future, when they require a pilot license of some sort they have you by the short hairs already.
Don't kid yourselves and think this is just for safety. This is a power play to circumvent congress.
BTW- while they are telling you that you are registering your planes, you are just giving them information about yourself. This way, in the near future, when they require a pilot license of some sort they have you by the short hairs already.
Don't kid yourselves and think this is just for safety. This is a power play to circumvent congress.
12-15-2015, 08:17 AM
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So far, I have seen nothing to indicate that the AMA will require its members to register their aircraft with the FAA. The Safety Code certainly has not been updated to include this mandate. Given the fact that the AMA is publicly opposing the FAA's decision, and declaring the FAA"s action to be in violation of a Congressional mandate, I doubt they will require us to register with the FAA in the foreseeable future.
The FAA, on the other hand, is threatening us with some pretty hefty penalties.
I am pretty sure the registration requirements only pertain to aircraft that are remotely controlled. I suppose the FAA might claim that rockets that have R/C capability, and that weigh >250g must be registered, though the vast majority of rockets out there do not meet these parameters.
The FAA, on the other hand, is threatening us with some pretty hefty penalties.
I am pretty sure the registration requirements only pertain to aircraft that are remotely controlled. I suppose the FAA might claim that rockets that have R/C capability, and that weigh >250g must be registered, though the vast majority of rockets out there do not meet these parameters.
If I am flying a student's plane Under the Intro Pilot Program Who's Registration Number is required to be in/on the plane Mine His or both?
12-15-2015, 08:21 AM
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It's not aircraft that are being Registered It's YOU the PILOT/Owner.
12-15-2015, 08:23 AM
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In the time you spend here venting about the new rules, you should spend the same time complaining to your Congressman. Just be sure and let them know you will no longer support him/her if hobbyist flying under AMA membership and at sanctioned fields are included with drone operators who are not should be excluded from the FAA registration rule.
12-15-2015, 08:25 AM
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It's not aircraft that are being Registered It's YOU the PILOT/Owner. Don't U understand that. Now if U fly a buddy's plane is it his Number or Yours or Both that must be on/in that craft. Like wise
If I am flying a student's plane Under the Intro Pilot Program Who's Registration Number is required to be in/on the plane Mine His or both?
If I am flying a student's plane Under the Intro Pilot Program Who's Registration Number is required to be in/on the plane Mine His or both?
12-15-2015, 08:25 AM
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12-15-2015, 08:26 AM
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12-15-2015, 08:29 AM
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It's not aircraft that are being Registered It's YOU the PILOT/Owner.
It's your fleet number all your fleet get YOUR number on or in each plane so it's U they are in essence registering U. Now along with that are u allowed to fly a buddy's plane with his number on/in or do U need Your number or both? .... Yet to be determined.
12-15-2015, 08:32 AM
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You guys can do as you choose but I will not be complying because according to "PUBLIC LAW 112–95—FEB. 14, 2012" " SEC. 336. SPECIAL RULE FOR MODEL AIRCRAFT" , as long as flown under the listed parameters I am exempt. There are no and's. if's, or but's, as long as one abides by the parameters.
And I don't see clubs requiring it nor event CD's, it is not against the law to fly model aircraft within the congress given guidelines. Until congress changes the law the FAA can not tell me to stop flying or require me to register!
And I don't see clubs requiring it nor event CD's, it is not against the law to fly model aircraft within the congress given guidelines. Until congress changes the law the FAA can not tell me to stop flying or require me to register!
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12-15-2015, 08:34 AM
#2473
It's not aircraft that are being Registered It's YOU the PILOT/Owner.
It's your fleet number all your fleet get YOUR number on or in each plane so it's U they are in essence registering U. Now along with that are u allowed to fly a buddy's plane with his number on/in or do U need Your number or both? .... Yet to be determined.
It's your fleet number all your fleet get YOUR number on or in each plane so it's U they are in essence registering U. Now along with that are u allowed to fly a buddy's plane with his number on/in or do U need Your number or both? .... Yet to be determined.
12-15-2015, 08:35 AM
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12-15-2015, 08:39 AM
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also they register the Pilot so if they are forced through the courts to abide by #336 and not make any regs for Model airplanes flown strictly for fun or education they can say they aren't making rules for R/C's. they are registering PILOTS because we are operating in the NAS. A Very simple and sneaky concept don't u think?
man I've 72 Emails pertaining to RCU forums from yesterday to read thru ... Think I'll Just blow them all away go SSS a stop at mickey D's on the way to the field. It aught to be interesting discussion today. Tuesday is the day the IMPORTANT people show up. U know the 10% that run the place and do 90%+ of the work.
BUrrrrrrrrrrrr it only 44 man gota get the Parka out.
Last edited by HoundDog; 12-15-2015 at 08:49 AM.