Horrace Cain:

“Garbage in garbage out. I think was one that I remember”

‘Here we have a combination of the above in JB's message. I have no clue to what was placed in, however plenty of garbage comes out and, IMO, mostly by choice of the individual making the output, to assure that that output is slanted to whatever advantage he perceives”

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.a...653&tostyle=tm



Horrace Cain:

“Now JB is running on the plank that he thinks actions by Sandy and Myself were less than ethical. I disagree”

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.a...653&tostyle=tm

“I previously announced that the D-VIII slate would be full. SF got nervous and nominated 2 of his buddies. So what?”

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.a...653&tostyle=tm

“The AMA EC made those rules and I simply used the rules they made.
Just like the IRS: Congress leaves loop-holes in the laws for themselves and when I can find those loopholes and use them to MY benefit, then I am simply following the rules "They" made. No regrets here.”

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.a...371&tostyle=tm


“Let's let it all hang out. "Politically Correct" is NOT my forte. What IS my forte is GETTING THE JOB DONE or MISSION ACCOMPLISHMENT. Bombs on target or Passengers to destination-on-time was always the objective.

Was it politically correct how I finagled getting the final release of the frequencies from FCC? Not hardly as that could have been called bribery which I think may not be considered "procedural protocol", except it WORKS and that is NOT the only time I bought what I needed. Whatever gets the job done is what I go for.

When the road is blocked, if I am motivated to continue, I will find a suitable detour.”

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.a...807&tostyle=tm

“What a person CAN and WILL do in the future is substantiated by what one HAS DONE in the PAST.”

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.a...719&tostyle=tm

GARBAGE IN – GARBAGE OUT



Horrace Cain:

“The incumbent is assured a slot unless 3/4 of the Committee (which EXCLUDES the VP and the ED) vote to refuse, however the incumbent does have a vote.”

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.a...653&tostyle=tm

Fact: ED not member NC. No Prohibition, in By-Laws, Standing Rules, on incumbent voting for self

GARBAGE IN – GARBAGE OUT



Horrace Cain:

“Therefore for those that want a strong personality, yet one willing to listen and adapt, one that is a veteran of the political battles, and one with a background of ALL modeling then you have only one choice: ME "

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.a...653&tostyle=tm

“If it's a "game" at my level, then it is a fun game. No BFD! Yet, I will play when it suits my particular taste at the particular time.”

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.a...799&tostyle=tm

GARBAGE IN – GARBAGE OUT



Horrace Cain:

“THANK YOU, GUYS. While I have no evidence to prove such, your moral indignation provides me with the feeling to assure me that you each said the same to one Mr. Doug Holland, then and currently the AMA Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer when his attorneys filed against me last October.
While I questioned issues, and made no such derogatory statements of his personal qualifications or persona image, Mr. Holland's attorneys conferred the existence of malice as my questions reflected on Mr. Holland's personal professional life.

My attorney, after review of all charges and all relevant factors determined the charges rather frivolous, yet he also indicated the large amount of money required for defense which I personally did not care to spend. Still, I was out of enough to fund several new Big Birds.
All in all, I quit campaigning, Mr. Holland won the election big time, and then dropped the suit.”

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.a...848&tostyle=tm

Therefore I have no evidence concerning what is / is not true other than as for myself. I will no longer pay for anything dealing with AMA politics, and I have not done so since paying my legal defense against the lawsuit initiated by the current EVP last October.
Perhaps the EC will soon be like Congress -- the very best that MONEY CAN BUY!!!

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.a...803&tostyle=tm

The Initial letter only referenced that advertising that I sent by e and snail mail via "Fliers". Such "Fliers" only contained questions concerning events/information already recorded in official AMA minutes. Even when the claim is without any foundation, one has legal defense expenses.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.a...815&tostyle=tm

FACT: NO LAWSUIT FILED


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Horrace Cain:

I find it offensive and abusive when someone too lazy to initially enter the competition for a place on the ballot will then start a formidable write-in campaign to further split the vote even more from those that do contest the incumbent.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.a...653&tostyle=tm

Jim B., Welcome to the cess pool. Gonna' be interesting. In another post I stated that D-VIII voters have a choice of 3 distinct personalities. Now there's four.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.a...908&tostyle=tm

GARBAGE IN – GARBAGE OUT



Horrace Cain:

1978 Elected District VI Vice-President, quit in the middle of second term

GARBAGE IN – GARBAGE OUT

LET’S LEAVE THE GARBAGE OUT!



Howie Land, AR

HL, was there a point to that miles long post of reprints?

if so, what was it?

mongo

Looks to me like he is not too fond of doublespeak

JR

If the garbage does not get installed there is no need to remove. Mike K.

Great Post.

jr, from what i can tell, they are all full of it.
so far the only one not making an ass of himself, or that has not already proven himself to be an ass, is mike.
poor, in way over his head mike.

Sorry Mongo, I thought the point was self evident. At times we must revist what those seeking to represent us have spoken in the past, even if it is Garbage in - Garbage out

By his own admission,
"What a person CAN and WILL do in the future is substantiated by what one HAS DONE in the PAST"
thus we need look at the past flow of garbage to substantiate the probable flow of garbage in the future.

I hope that clarifies the point.

your welcome

Howie Land, AR

mongo

This is my opinion, so keep that in mind.

I agree with you about Mike Moss.

It genuinely offended me that a VP and a prior VP would do anything to alter the election process. I dug up the facts contained in the Nominating Committee Minutes to substantiate what I have been told by some that were there. I posted the facts as well as I can. I was not in the NC room. I can not read minds.

Accepting a nomination and nominating your friends to run against you, is something a lot of us learned was not acceptable in about second grade. Loop holes, detours... whatever you want to call them, were not put there intentionally. This is a fraternal organization, whom many of my friends are a members of, from all over the country. I expect a higher standard from those that will represent us... I really do.

Branaum was a knucklehead for getting into it with Cain on here, no doubt. I wish I could say I have never engaged in the same garbage with Cain. I have probably been a bigger knucklehead than Branaum. I find it almost impossible to let some of the stuff Cain posts go by. LOL. You may have noticed that.

Mongo, so that there is no misunderstanding, I know it is NOT my vote being tampered with. It is the representation of all AMA members that DOES have an affect on me. I am just a dumb Californian trying to throw some facts on the table. I know it is a decision for DVIII to make, and not mine. These facts may or may not be important to each of you in D8. Your the ones that have to make the decision.

You and the other members of DVIII will have to cast the votes. I do not envy you your choices. Mine would be for Branaum.

That's my opinion.

JR

I don't thank all the mud matters much as it only looks idiotic to about 5 people on this board.

Most of it is COMPLETELY inside and unintelligible to even an interested party.

this is why i don't watch tv during the elections of our government. its the same old junk just on another day!

jim gets my vote i asked him a question and i even got an answer!!! not one of those political speech answers either, a real answer!!


go Jim!

john

Matt

I think the answers lie in the thread about the Nominating Committee Minutes.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/Nomi...1152496/tm.htm
Is that what you consider mud? What is your opinion about the actions of the incumbent and the prior D6 VP? How do their actions sit with you?

JR