Crickets....
08-28-2020, 02:28 PM
#276
Senior Member
AMA's so-called mission statement is boiler-plate verbiage. For AMA's real mission statement read Rich Hanson's op-ed in The Hill:
"We are willing to work with Congress and the UAS industry to ensure that those that fly under Section 336
are educated, trained and managed by an established community-based organization "
That means all recreational flyers, conditioned with Hanson's pitch that recreational flyers not belonging to AMA are basically criminals that
deserve to be punished: "task the FAA with increasing enforcement so that those who violate Part 107 are held accountable for their actions".
What leader of any other hobby or sport would attack its own constituency like that, much less in an appeal to Congress in a major publication? How
much more malignant could an organization be? The FAA dumped a bucket of ice water on Hanson and AMA's forced membership scam a week later.
"We are willing to work with Congress and the UAS industry to ensure that those that fly under Section 336
are educated, trained and managed by an established community-based organization "
That means all recreational flyers, conditioned with Hanson's pitch that recreational flyers not belonging to AMA are basically criminals that
deserve to be punished: "task the FAA with increasing enforcement so that those who violate Part 107 are held accountable for their actions".
What leader of any other hobby or sport would attack its own constituency like that, much less in an appeal to Congress in a major publication? How
much more malignant could an organization be? The FAA dumped a bucket of ice water on Hanson and AMA's forced membership scam a week later.
08-28-2020, 02:34 PM
#277
AMA's so-called mission statement is boiler-plate verbiage. For AMA's real mission statement read Rich Hanson's op-ed in The Hill:
"We are willing to work with Congress and the UAS industry to ensure that those that fly under Section 336
are educated, trained and managed by an established community-based organization "
That means all recreational flyers, conditioned with Hanson's pitch that recreational flyers not belonging to AMA are basically criminals that
deserve to be punished: "task the FAA with increasing enforcement so that those who violate Part 107 are held accountable for their actions".
What leader of any other hobby or sport would attack its own constituency like that, much less in an appeal to Congress in a major publication? How
much more malignant could an organization be? The FAA dumped a bucket of ice water on Hanson and AMA's forced membership scam a week later.
"We are willing to work with Congress and the UAS industry to ensure that those that fly under Section 336
are educated, trained and managed by an established community-based organization "
That means all recreational flyers, conditioned with Hanson's pitch that recreational flyers not belonging to AMA are basically criminals that
deserve to be punished: "task the FAA with increasing enforcement so that those who violate Part 107 are held accountable for their actions".
What leader of any other hobby or sport would attack its own constituency like that, much less in an appeal to Congress in a major publication? How
much more malignant could an organization be? The FAA dumped a bucket of ice water on Hanson and AMA's forced membership scam a week later.
R_Strowe
08-28-2020, 02:40 PM
#278
That's interesting. I didn't know the Klingons had found this planet yet. For that matter, the Vulcans aren't scheduled to find Earth for another 42+ years. To be more specific, first contact is scheduled to be in Bozeman Montana on April 5th, 2063. We aren't supposed to even see a Klingon until April, 2151 and that being in Broken Bow Oklahoma, where he will get shot by a plasma shotgun and barely survive.
08-28-2020, 02:52 PM
#279
08-28-2020, 03:03 PM
#280
Okay, let's clarify this a little more. You have to remember that, at that point, there were no other CBO's as the only other one was forced out of existence by legal action initiated by the AMA so, to mention CBOs could only mean the AMA at that time
08-28-2020, 03:14 PM
#281
Agree, one does not need to be AMA affiliated to be classified as a modeler. My main point is that being registered with the FAA does not mean you fit the definition of a modeler either. IMO regardless of what you fly, if the intent is to fly for no other reason but to enjoy the flight then I consider you a modeler. If the intent of the flight is a video or pictures then you are a videographer or photographer simply using a tool to get the job done.
The latter types have no intent of joining any R/C club and I have no issue with that. However why should anyone beleive that the AMA should lobby for them if they have no intent of becoming modelers?
08-28-2020, 03:16 PM
#282
That's interesting. I didn't know the Klingons had found this planet yet. For that matter, the Vulcans aren't scheduled to find Earth for another 42+ years. To be more specific, first contact is scheduled to be in Bozeman Montana on April 5th, 2063. We aren't supposed to even see a Klingon until April, 2151 and that being in Broken Bow Oklahoma, where he will get shot by a plasma shotgun and barely survive.
We can only hope there aren't any Borg involved.....
08-28-2020, 03:20 PM
#283
Senior Member
Right. It's in black and white my friendly spinmeister.
08-28-2020, 03:22 PM
#284
This is a fairly enlightening read on that subject.
Whatever happened to the Sport's Flyers Association?
08-28-2020, 03:33 PM
#285
08-28-2020, 03:35 PM
#286
- Rich Hanson, President, AMA, February 2018 Model Aviation Magazine, pg 6.
“Currently, if you are not a member of a CBO and following its rules, you are required to fly under Part 107 (emphasis added).” - Randy Cameron, Executive Vice President, AMA, February 2018 Model Aviation Magazine, pg 124.
“To fly a radio controlled aircraft in the United States, there’s only two ways you can do that right now. You either get a 107 UAS Remote Pilot Certificate … or you follow Section 336 of the Public Law, which outlines a process where you can be part of a community based organization and then follow their guidelines. So basically AMA is the only one at this point … So you either have a 107 certificate or you’re a member of the AMA (emphasis added).”
- Tony Stillman, Flying Site Coordinator, AMA, undated interview approx 9 months ago w/ Hobby Geek (approx 15 minute mark)
And these don't include the video where Executive Director of AMA also says ".... you have to be a member ...."
08-28-2020, 03:37 PM
#287
Senior Member
The lastest important news is that the FAA delined to prosecute a drone flyer who interfered with the Bighorn fire in Arizona
in June claiming they could not prove the owner was flying the drone.
Being a criminal investigation could force the drone owner to answer the question, I don't know if this is a move by the FAA
to spur authorities into demanding Remote ID sooner than later.
The case was also turned over to the FBI, along with a second drone that was siezed (a third drone burned up in the fire), so
there still may be a criminal case.
in June claiming they could not prove the owner was flying the drone.
Being a criminal investigation could force the drone owner to answer the question, I don't know if this is a move by the FAA
to spur authorities into demanding Remote ID sooner than later.
The case was also turned over to the FBI, along with a second drone that was siezed (a third drone burned up in the fire), so
there still may be a criminal case.
08-28-2020, 03:55 PM
#293
08-28-2020, 04:05 PM
#295
08-28-2020, 04:06 PM
#296
And so it appears the oh so sure of himself Mr. Strowe , who thought he was SO in the know , will now be the one eating crow .....
08-28-2020, 04:06 PM
#297
Oh, and I sure appreciate the efforts of those who bothered to go back and dig up the facts. I KNEW they were there (hence my opinions/beliefs), I just wasn't willing to spend the hours of perusing through the YEARS of documents to find the smoking gun to prove it to the ignorant.
Astro
Astro
08-28-2020, 04:07 PM
#298
08-28-2020, 04:17 PM
#300