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Old 08-02-2022, 04:05 AM
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Just got the monthly newsletter from the National Rocketry Association. They mention "Of note, the fastest growing age group in our membership is 18-25 year old" pretty impressive IMO. I wonder just where the growth is ( if any) we have in the AMA?

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Old 08-03-2022, 08:18 AM
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It does not surprise me. Rockets are fun, cool, use a lot of complex technology and materials, go boom, and both NAR and Tripoli got their acts together many years go with dealing with the government and education all while the AMA was building their own theme park.
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Rockets used to be ARF kits & a tube of glue. Simple, Safer than a spinning prop. Always / usually went in a safe direction. No runways needed.. Yippeee
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Rockets are Free Flight yes? What are the FAA regulations regarding free flight model airplanes?
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We continue to get new members so far 6-7 new this year,,, 2 of which are teenagers,,, it's encouraging,,
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Originally Posted by cyclops2
Rockets used to be ARF kits & a tube of glue. Simple, Safer than a spinning prop. Always / usually went in a safe direction. No runways needed.. Yippeee
Mayne not runways but finding places to launch have become a big issue. Little stuff not so much but high powered you need plenty of space and a FAA waiver. That's why our club got involved in rocketry. I've helped more kids over the last few years in rocketry than we have had flying airplanes. Things are only as safe as you make them.

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Great to see young people getting involved. I've flown since 1987 myself
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PLEASE PLEASE !!

DO NOT ALLOW RC controls that make the rockets surfaces into guided missiles...... The Danger is unreal if the controls jam & it flies HOROZONTIAL !!!!

Rockets are so simple and fun.

Is there still the National Big Boys Rocket competition ?
Ground control this is flight 222. A missile Just wizzed by. Good old days for unlimited class.
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Originally Posted by cyclops2
PLEASE PLEASE !!

DO NOT ALLOW RC controls that make the rockets surfaces into guided missiles...... The Danger is unreal if the controls jam & it flies HOROZONTIAL !!!!

Rockets are so simple and fun.

Is there still the National Big Boys Rocket competition ?
Ground control this is flight 222. A missile Just wizzed by. Good old days for unlimited class.
This big enough?
https://spaceportamericacup.com/
There are high powered launch's almost every weekend somewhere in the US.

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Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
Rockets are Free Flight yes? What are the FAA regulations regarding free flight model airplanes?
Suggest you read 14 CFR 101.22 (definitions) before commenting. If you'd done that, then you'd already know that FAA regulations regarding "model aircraft" are not applicable to "amateur rockets" - as the latter are regulated under 14 CFR 101 Sub-Part C.

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https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-1...ter-F/part-101
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Exactly! That is why it’s nonsense to compare the organizations that represent them. Thank you for the help pointing that out.
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Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
Exactly! That is why it’s nonsense to compare the organizations that represent them. Thank you for the help pointing that out.
Just more deflection and wordsmithing...

What really matters is model rockets affect the NAS just as sUAS do. Their respective governing bodies are absolutely comparable.

Another example of defending the AMA....

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Another example of your attempt to start an argument.
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Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
Exactly! That is why it’s nonsense to compare the organizations that represent them. Thank you for the help pointing that out.

Both represent HOBBYIST. Both answer to the FAA and work with them. Both operate in airspace under the FAA rules. Bot have paying members. So there's more than a number of reasons to compare them. Your argument is flawed that's the only "nonsense".
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Originally Posted by rcmiket
Both represent HOBBYIST. Both answer to the FAA and work with them. Both operate in airspace under the FAA rules. Bot have paying members. So there's more than a number of reasons to compare them. Your argument is flawed that's the only "nonsense".
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Rockets have no guidance control and therefore are not seen as the same threat to national security as a UAS that can be guided to a target.
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Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
Another example of your attempt to start an argument.
You say that about anybody that disagrees with you and does not exalt your excellency.

You simply cannot accept others' opinions.

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Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
Rockets have no guidance control and therefore are not seen as the same threat to national security as a UAS that can be guided to a target.
Show me where the FAA says they do not see them as the same threat. Zero facts to back that up. More logical fallacies.....

It matters not. What matters is that they operate in the airspace the FAA controls and they are both regulated by the FAA. Another weak attempt at deflection on your part.

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I hope people recognize that this thread was perfectly civil until Astro came in. I’m not interested in an argument so I will be the one stepping away.
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Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
I hope people recognize that this thread was perfectly civil until Astro came in. I’m not interested in an argument so I will be the one stepping away.
That is your skewed perception.

Please point out where I was not civil. Anyone whose opinion differs from yours is uncivil?

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Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
Rockets have no guidance control and therefore are not seen as the same threat to national security as a UAS that can be guided to a target.
LOL> Nice try.
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Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
Exactly! That is why it’s nonsense to compare the organizations that represent them. Thank you for the help pointing that out.
Membership growth in the two organizations was the subject of the OP.

It was you that introduced a different topic - wrongly linking operations of amateur rockets to operations of free flight sUAS.

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